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Big note: Fedora is a kinda beta branch of RHEL with experimental features and could have breaking changes.

smcl 9y ago
I think RHEL is for solid long-term Enterprise-level support, so even though its more experimental than that, it’s still pretty solid IME
vetinari 9y ago
Fedora is not kinda beta branch of RHEL. Fedora is a fast-moving distribution, similar to non-LTS Ubuntu. RHEL is a long-term supported distribution (way longer than LTS Ubuntu). It is for machines that you want to set up and forget about their existence. The difference is in target audience and the intent, what their machines have to do. More proper designation would be, that RHEL is a fork of Fedora, that is being supported long-term.
- baldfat 9y ago
  > Fedora is not kinda beta branch of RHEL. I thought maybe Redhat changed their stance on Fedora and read from Redhat's page and well it is 100% a beta testing ground for RHEL. "The size and expertise of the Fedora community make Fedora an ideal incubator and proving ground for features that eventually get incorporated into Red Hat Enterprise Linux. To meet the quality and reliability requirements that make Red Hat Enterprise Linux the choice for mission-critical applications, Red Hat puts Red Hat Enterprise Linux through its own set of tests and quality assurance (QA) processes that are separate and distinct from those of Fedora." https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/articles/relationship-between-fedora-and-rhel https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/artic...
  - vetinari 9y ago
    You can read from that excerpt whatever you want, but it still does not make Fedora beta for RHEL. Just like Windows 10 is not beta for Windows LTSB, or Linux kernel releases are not betas for kernels that will be LTS.
  - jsight 9y ago
    I understand where you are coming from, but I think it is just a matter of framing. If you consider regular Ubuntu releases to be the "beta branch" of their LTS releases, then the comparison would be apt. I don't really see it that way. Each Fedora release is reliable, but the software does evolve quickly. The RHEL releases are taken from a point in time on that stream, pushed through an even more extensive QE process, and maintained for an extended period of time.
    - baldfat 9y ago
      But Ubuntu doesn't say that they use Ubuntu as "... an ideal incubator and proving ground for features." I use to use Fedora Core and then up to Fedora 7. I got burned way to many times and view Fedora as a slight step up from Arch Linux as a working distro. Both Fedora and Arch are more "hobbyist" distros and I will not use them in a professional work flow. I use OpenSUSE and I find their model to be the best of Distros and haven't ever got burned by them. OUTSIDE of 2001 when I was installing SUSE and wiped my partitions because I didn't know what I was doing :)
  - oblio 9y ago
    Based on your comment I assume you're an old timer. It's been 14 years since the bad blood days of Fedora Core 1. Fedora is way more polished than back in the day.
    - baldfat 9y ago
      Yes, I am an old timer, but Fedora still isn't production ready like Ubuntu, OpenSUSE or the paid for distros. I am certainly more of a pragmatic Linux user so the graphic card drivers are not proprietary blobs and must use the open source drivers. I might be wrong haven't installed Fedora since 14.

smcl 9y ago

I think RHEL is for solid long-term Enterprise-level support, so even though its more experimental than that, it’s still pretty solid IME

vetinari 9y ago

Fedora is not kinda beta branch of RHEL. Fedora is a fast-moving distribution, similar to non-LTS Ubuntu. RHEL is a long-term supported distribution (way longer than LTS Ubuntu). It is for machines that you want to set up and forget about their existence. The difference is in target audience and the intent, what their machines have to do. More proper designation would be, that RHEL is a fork of Fedora, that is being supported long-term.

baldfat 9y ago
> Fedora is not kinda beta branch of RHEL. I thought maybe Redhat changed their stance on Fedora and read from Redhat's page and well it is 100% a beta testing ground for RHEL. "The size and expertise of the Fedora community make Fedora an ideal incubator and proving ground for features that eventually get incorporated into Red Hat Enterprise Linux. To meet the quality and reliability requirements that make Red Hat Enterprise Linux the choice for mission-critical applications, Red Hat puts Red Hat Enterprise Linux through its own set of tests and quality assurance (QA) processes that are separate and distinct from those of Fedora." https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/articles/relationship-between-fedora-and-rhel https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/artic...
- vetinari 9y ago
  You can read from that excerpt whatever you want, but it still does not make Fedora beta for RHEL. Just like Windows 10 is not beta for Windows LTSB, or Linux kernel releases are not betas for kernels that will be LTS.
- jsight 9y ago
  I understand where you are coming from, but I think it is just a matter of framing. If you consider regular Ubuntu releases to be the "beta branch" of their LTS releases, then the comparison would be apt. I don't really see it that way. Each Fedora release is reliable, but the software does evolve quickly. The RHEL releases are taken from a point in time on that stream, pushed through an even more extensive QE process, and maintained for an extended period of time.
  - baldfat 9y ago
    But Ubuntu doesn't say that they use Ubuntu as "... an ideal incubator and proving ground for features." I use to use Fedora Core and then up to Fedora 7. I got burned way to many times and view Fedora as a slight step up from Arch Linux as a working distro. Both Fedora and Arch are more "hobbyist" distros and I will not use them in a professional work flow. I use OpenSUSE and I find their model to be the best of Distros and haven't ever got burned by them. OUTSIDE of 2001 when I was installing SUSE and wiped my partitions because I didn't know what I was doing :)
- oblio 9y ago
  Based on your comment I assume you're an old timer. It's been 14 years since the bad blood days of Fedora Core 1. Fedora is way more polished than back in the day.
  - baldfat 9y ago
    Yes, I am an old timer, but Fedora still isn't production ready like Ubuntu, OpenSUSE or the paid for distros. I am certainly more of a pragmatic Linux user so the graphic card drivers are not proprietary blobs and must use the open source drivers. I might be wrong haven't installed Fedora since 14.