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I liked version 7 but I believe Windows has taken a downturn since then.

Already__Taken 9y ago
The UX improvements to window management, multiple monitors and virtual desktops since 7 is immense though.
mattmanser 9y ago
I was about to defend it, but on reflection, windows 10 is a real mixed bag. Pros: - It's fantastically fast, I dislike going back to win 7 - Some of the utilities are nicer Cons: - Random scheduled tasks fire in the background at really annoying times. I installed a completely clean install of win 10 and some fail and then constantly re-run as they've not been marked as completed (e.g. .net 32-bit optimization service, some sort of memory optimization service). On my desktop I don't notice, but on my laptop if I leave it unattended the fan often starts going crazy. I've tried fixing the broken services but never really got to the bottom why. What's most annoying is the when you then try and disable or replace these services with dummy exes, windows update will "helpfully" "fix" them and re-enable them. There are also various scheduled tasks that automatically re-enable themselves on restart. It was also constantly trying to run one windows update that kept failing and it never told me, but would go through the whole rigmarole of doing incredibly expensive windows update trying to install this one driver. - New start menu is bad, it's simply just not as usable as win 7, you end up always searching where win 7 seem to just be easier to quickly find things without typing anything - Tiles are generally annoying - New windows apps are annoyingly fancy and touch screen centric, for example there's no reason a calculator should be semi-transparent, it's actually really visually distracting - Telem crap is incredibly user-hostile, invasive and almost impossible to get rid of - Ctrl-alt-delete is partially broken and no longer works seamlessly. You have to do some crazy stuff like create a new desktop to get off a crashed program - Explorer (file explorer) just seems to have become a real mess since XP and searching is agonisingly slow. Especially if you're doing it on a folder that contains bower or npm folders, in 2017 windows still struggles with long file paths
- dm319 9y ago
  How did you find whether the update services were running or not? I was having trouble with a failing update, but I couldn't find any evidence of it running.
  - mattmanser 9y ago
    In "Windows Update Settings" there's a "Update History" link which lists all recent updates. For the one that was failing it was listed every day. This had been going on for months too. I think that's my biggest beef with Windows 10, you're not supposed to muck around with the scheduler running tasks when idle or the updates, but it's so brittle that when it fails it does really stupid things without telling you.
- ataturk 9y ago
  With Windows 10 I just have this unshakeable feeling that Microsoft has closed the loop on their partnership with our corrupt government on spying on all of us all the time. Fuck that noise.

The UX improvements to window management, multiple monitors and virtual desktops since 7 is immense though.

I was about to defend it, but on reflection, windows 10 is a real mixed bag. Pros: - It's fantastically fast, I dislike going back to win 7 - Some of the utilities are nicer Cons: - Random scheduled tasks fire in the background at really annoying times. I installed a completely clean install of win 10 and some fail and then constantly re-run as they've not been marked as completed (e.g. .net 32-bit optimization service, some sort of memory optimization service). On my desktop I don't notice, but on my laptop if I leave it unattended the fan often starts going crazy. I've tried fixing the broken services but never really got to the bottom why. What's most annoying is the when you then try and disable or replace these services with dummy exes, windows update will "helpfully" "fix" them and re-enable them. There are also various scheduled tasks that automatically re-enable themselves on restart. It was also constantly trying to run one windows update that kept failing and it never told me, but would go through the whole rigmarole of doing incredibly expensive windows update trying to install this one driver. - New start menu is bad, it's simply just not as usable as win 7, you end up always searching where win 7 seem to just be easier to quickly find things without typing anything - Tiles are generally annoying - New windows apps are annoyingly fancy and touch screen centric, for example there's no reason a calculator should be semi-transparent, it's actually really visually distracting - Telem crap is incredibly user-hostile, invasive and almost impossible to get rid of - Ctrl-alt-delete is partially broken and no longer works seamlessly. You have to do some crazy stuff like create a new desktop to get off a crashed program - Explorer (file explorer) just seems to have become a real mess since XP and searching is agonisingly slow. Especially if you're doing it on a folder that contains bower or npm folders, in 2017 windows still struggles with long file paths

dm319 9y ago
How did you find whether the update services were running or not? I was having trouble with a failing update, but I couldn't find any evidence of it running.
- mattmanser 9y ago
  In "Windows Update Settings" there's a "Update History" link which lists all recent updates. For the one that was failing it was listed every day. This had been going on for months too. I think that's my biggest beef with Windows 10, you're not supposed to muck around with the scheduler running tasks when idle or the updates, but it's so brittle that when it fails it does really stupid things without telling you.
ataturk 9y ago
With Windows 10 I just have this unshakeable feeling that Microsoft has closed the loop on their partnership with our corrupt government on spying on all of us all the time. Fuck that noise.