> And all for what? So you can turn the lights on after you go through multiple steps to unlock your phone? The fact that they're IoT devices is kind of irrele

> And all for what? So you can turn the lights on after you go through multiple steps to unlock your phone? The fact that they're IoT devices is kind of irrelevant, as is their function. The underlying question is: to what extent should manufacturers be made responsible for the damage their products cause? If you make an electric heater that routinely combusts during normal operation, your customers and the state have some recourse against you – not that it would happen, because there are generally standards in that industry. But if you make a device that quietly becomes part of a botnet, you really aren't going to suffer; even the reputational issues are generally minimal.