3 ms·

Poor people are allowed to legally gamble away their money in situations where its 100% known that they will lose it all.

by Sevii 9y ago

derefr 9y ago
This is kind of why commercial casinos are illegal in 30 states, why racetrack betting is illegal in 29 states, why online gambling is illegal in 46(!) states, and why the only legal (non-charitable) lotteries are state-run. It's not leftover morality laws; it's that monitoring commercial gambling to protect against exploitation of the poor is a really hard problem, one we haven't really solved. Some states choose to allow it despite this, and then deal with the consequences of increased poverty. Most don't. (And then they're forced to allow it in anyway by native on-res exceptions.) This is also why such commercial gambling establishments as are legalized, are heavily regulated. For example, see the Nevada state laws on gaming fraud: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-465.html#NRS465Sec070 https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-465.html#NRS465Sec070 Those laws aren't there to stop people trying to cheat the house. They're there to stop the house from exploiting people by rigging the game.
- smsm42 9y ago
  > This is kind of why commercial casinos are illegal in 30 states, why racetrack betting is illegal in 29 states, why online gambling is illegal in 46(!) states, and why the only legal (non-charitable) lotteries are state-run. And we all know no poor person in these states ever gambled their money away! Or, alternatively, they did gamble it away, but since gambling is illegal, they were also cheated mercilessly and have no recourse and no place to complain, since being poor and telling police you participated in illegal activity gets you an express ticket to jail.
- zanny 9y ago
  Meanwhile, buying loot chests in Android games is perfectly legal and lets people spend thousands of dollars in a gambling stupor and get nothing for it.
chimeracoder 9y ago
> Poor people are allowed to legally gamble away their money in situations where its 100% known that they will lose it all. Gambling is viewed as entertainment, both by the government and the people participating in it. As entertaining as startup life can be, there's a very big difference between a risky investment and gambling for entertainment value.

Poor people are allowed to legally gamble away their money in situations where its 100% known that they will lose it all.

by Sevii 9y ago

Poor people are allowed to legally gamble away their money in situations where its 100% known that they will lose it all.

derefr 9y ago

This is kind of why commercial casinos are illegal in 30 states, why racetrack betting is illegal in 29 states, why online gambling is illegal in 46(!) states, and why the only legal (non-charitable) lotteries are state-run. It's not leftover morality laws; it's that monitoring commercial gambling to protect against exploitation of the poor is a really hard problem, one we haven't really solved. Some states choose to allow it despite this, and then deal with the consequences of increased poverty. Most don't. (And then they're forced to allow it in anyway by native on-res exceptions.) This is also why such commercial gambling establishments as are legalized, are heavily regulated. For example, see the Nevada state laws on gaming fraud: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-465.html#NRS465Sec070 https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-465.html#NRS465Sec070 Those laws aren't there to stop people trying to cheat the house. They're there to stop the house from exploiting people by rigging the game.

smsm42 9y ago
> This is kind of why commercial casinos are illegal in 30 states, why racetrack betting is illegal in 29 states, why online gambling is illegal in 46(!) states, and why the only legal (non-charitable) lotteries are state-run. And we all know no poor person in these states ever gambled their money away! Or, alternatively, they did gamble it away, but since gambling is illegal, they were also cheated mercilessly and have no recourse and no place to complain, since being poor and telling police you participated in illegal activity gets you an express ticket to jail.
zanny 9y ago
Meanwhile, buying loot chests in Android games is perfectly legal and lets people spend thousands of dollars in a gambling stupor and get nothing for it.

chimeracoder 9y ago

> Poor people are allowed to legally gamble away their money in situations where its 100% known that they will lose it all. Gambling is viewed as entertainment, both by the government and the people participating in it. As entertaining as startup life can be, there's a very big difference between a risky investment and gambling for entertainment value.