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Disclosure: I work for AgileBits, makers of 1Password Hello fellow (or former) password manager person! Fancy seeing you here. The previous model wasn't killi
by AGKyle 9y ago
Disclosure: I work for AgileBits, makers of 1Password
Hello fellow (or former) password manager person! Fancy seeing you here.
The previous model wasn't killing us, in fact it isn't even "previous" because we still offer standalone licenses for those that want them and will continue to do so.
For those who aren't aware of our upgrade cycle in the past:
For Mac, we last charged for 1Password 4 back in 2013. Version 5 and 6 were free upgrades over the last 4 years. Version 3 users got free updates for 6 years before we released 1Password 4 as a paid upgrade.
For iOS, version 1 was paid, version 2 and 3 were free upgrades. Version 4 was a paid upgrade by way of a new app. It went free with premium in-app purchase in version 5 and all users who purchased version 4 got the premium service free in 5, 6 and 7.
If we really were struggling making revenue work for our standalone licenses we could've charged for upgrades every year like any other product does.
1Password.com is not about the revenue, it's about making a product that we can do more with. We have exciting ideas and features we want to create and introduce to our users but we couldn't do that without our 1Password.com solution. This is simply one of those options, our command line client is another one, and we'll be showing off even more great new features like these in the future.
On the security side, I encourage any security researchers out there to try to prove our applications insecure by demonstrating it via our bug bounty program:
https://bugcrowd.com/agilebits https://bugcrowd.com/agilebits
Happy hunting.
I hope that gives some insight at least.
Kyle
AgileBits
- ejcx 9y agoI'm a bugcrowd customer too, but offering a prize to say you are secure is a fallacy. It's also not how bugbounties work... Example: - https://moxie.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/ https://moxie.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/ The fact remains the same that the things you championed against LastPass doing are now the features and products you are providing. You guys have already been caught erasing and hiding the previous versions on your site to convert people to 1Password.com. I don't really care about any of this since but you guys are just not being sincere about the things you're doing. It's kind of sad.
- roustem 9y ago> You guys have already been caught erasing and hiding the previous versions on your site to convert people to 1Password.com. Wow, that is BS. You can download any previous version of 1Password, starting with version 0.8.0 (May 2006): https://app-updates.agilebits.com/ https://app-updates.agilebits.com/
- ejcx 9y agoNo it is not at all. This is what the whole debacle was a few months ago when you removed most of the download links from your website. https://twitter.com/cryptovillage/status/884205077459738624 https://twitter.com/cryptovillage/status/884205077459738624
- khad 9y agoEvery version of 1Password available on https://1password.com/downloads/ https://1password.com/downloads/ works with standalone vaults. The only exception is 1Password 6 for Windows, but there is a link to download 1Password 4 for Windows. The link for that even says "Get 1Password 4 (standalone version)".