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They haven't lost any good will that matters in the long run. I find 1Password valuable enough to pay them a monthly fee and so do many many others. They chang

They haven't lost any good will that matters in the long run. I find 1Password valuable enough to pay them a monthly fee and so do many many others. They changed their business model to be more sustainable/profitable and they know that means that they'll lose a segment of customers but that's OK. The products that won't do well with a business model like this are products that don't provide enough value. There is nothing wrong with the pricing model itself or a company choosing to adopt it.

mcgrath_sh 9y ago
For me, it is both about the business model and the move to a hosted service. I’m against renting tools. I will gladly buy them, and I will buy frequent-ish updates (18-24 months). I'm not cheap. I simply value ownership of both the software and my data. I have bought five 1Password licenses for myself and my immediate family; a roughly ~$300-$320 investment. Toss on another $50 for iOS licenses and you have roughly six years of subscription revenue. So, if six years of subs is goodwill that doesn’t matter, that is fine.
- AGKyle 9y ago
  Disclosure: I work for AgileBits, makers of 1Password To be clear, we aren't "moving to a hosted service." We still offer the Pro features for iOS for $10 for users who want to purchase that instead of a subscription. We still offer 1Password 6 licenses for Mac, they're available via the Mac App Store, our website, and in app after the trial period ends. We have also announced we'll be offering 1Password 7 licenses when we release that in the future. We have also announced we'll be offering standalone vaults and traditional licenses for 1Password 7 for Windows. So nothing is "moving to a hosted service." It's simply another option and it's also the option we feel is best for a vast majority of our users, that may not be you that falls in that category, but you're also reading hacker news, you're not in the same category as a majority of our users either. Hope that helps a little at least. Kyle AgileBits

mcgrath_sh 9y ago

For me, it is both about the business model and the move to a hosted service. I’m against renting tools. I will gladly buy them, and I will buy frequent-ish updates (18-24 months). I'm not cheap. I simply value ownership of both the software and my data. I have bought five 1Password licenses for myself and my immediate family; a roughly ~$300-$320 investment. Toss on another $50 for iOS licenses and you have roughly six years of subscription revenue. So, if six years of subs is goodwill that doesn’t matter, that is fine.

AGKyle 9y ago
Disclosure: I work for AgileBits, makers of 1Password To be clear, we aren't "moving to a hosted service." We still offer the Pro features for iOS for $10 for users who want to purchase that instead of a subscription. We still offer 1Password 6 licenses for Mac, they're available via the Mac App Store, our website, and in app after the trial period ends. We have also announced we'll be offering 1Password 7 licenses when we release that in the future. We have also announced we'll be offering standalone vaults and traditional licenses for 1Password 7 for Windows. So nothing is "moving to a hosted service." It's simply another option and it's also the option we feel is best for a vast majority of our users, that may not be you that falls in that category, but you're also reading hacker news, you're not in the same category as a majority of our users either. Hope that helps a little at least. Kyle AgileBits