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How about we also consider some less extreme hypotheticals, such as what might happen if everyone substituted Tenebrio meat for their Bos meat consumption. I t

How about we also consider some less extreme hypotheticals, such as what might happen if everyone substituted Tenebrio meat for their Bos meat consumption. I think they taste fine, but the spouse gets super-squicked at just the thought of me eating them. Apparently, it's just fine if the turtle eats them. That's an unfair double-standard right there. We're both opportunistic omnivores, after all. And the vegan police can't exactly stop me from throwing grain meal in a bucket and raising my own beetles, so the 100% vegan thing won't be happening anyway.

Apocryphon 9y ago
Why even go that far. Just hypothetisize having everyone only consume white meat and not red meat, the latter of which is both more taxing on the human physique, not just on the environment.
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  It's a lot easier for the food cops to find a backyard chicken coop than an indoor beetle-raising operation. And let's be honest with ourselves; in order to enforce 100% veganism, there will have to be "war on meat" food cops. I'm not going to stop eating meat unless someone literally puts a gun in my face, and then I will start again right after the gun is out of my face, and the gun-pointer is done roasting in my buried Morlock3000(TM) barbecue. It's technically not cannibalism if I feed the unfortunate Eloi to carnivorous insects and then eat the bugs, right?~ You can't force people to stop eating meat, and the veganism ecological argument will never be convincing enough to get 100% acceptance. You get far more traction out of finding ways to make the existing lifestyle status quo less damaging to the ecosystem. So now you're back to reducing the impact of the global beef herd in ways that don't involve reducing it all the way down to zero head of cattle.
  - Apocryphon 9y ago
    > It's a lot easier for the food cops to find a backyard chicken coop than an indoor beetle-raising operation. Wasn't so hard in the new Blade Runner
Overtonwindow 9y ago
But the vegan police will demonize you if you dare to question their beliefs, or support your own non-vegan nutrition choices.

Apocryphon 9y ago

Why even go that far. Just hypothetisize having everyone only consume white meat and not red meat, the latter of which is both more taxing on the human physique, not just on the environment.

logfromblammo 9y ago
It's a lot easier for the food cops to find a backyard chicken coop than an indoor beetle-raising operation. And let's be honest with ourselves; in order to enforce 100% veganism, there will have to be "war on meat" food cops. I'm not going to stop eating meat unless someone literally puts a gun in my face, and then I will start again right after the gun is out of my face, and the gun-pointer is done roasting in my buried Morlock3000(TM) barbecue. It's technically not cannibalism if I feed the unfortunate Eloi to carnivorous insects and then eat the bugs, right?~ You can't force people to stop eating meat, and the veganism ecological argument will never be convincing enough to get 100% acceptance. You get far more traction out of finding ways to make the existing lifestyle status quo less damaging to the ecosystem. So now you're back to reducing the impact of the global beef herd in ways that don't involve reducing it all the way down to zero head of cattle.
- Apocryphon 9y ago
  > It's a lot easier for the food cops to find a backyard chicken coop than an indoor beetle-raising operation. Wasn't so hard in the new Blade Runner

Overtonwindow 9y ago

But the vegan police will demonize you if you dare to question their beliefs, or support your own non-vegan nutrition choices.