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Atom announced "Teletype" today: https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-with-teletype-for-atom.html https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-tog

Atom announced "Teletype" today: https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-with-teletype-for-atom.html https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-w...

lostintangent 9y ago
It's really exciting to see the energy being directed at improving developer collaboration!
- peterkelly 9y ago
  Did the two teams collaborate to make the editors protocol-compatible?
  - TimTheTinker 9y ago
    Atom’s new Teletype protocol is open, so at minimum a Teletype-compatible plugin could be developed for VSCode. Note - the Teletype plugin initiates the connection via GitHub’s servers, but then the rest of the communication is entirely peer-to-peer via WebRTC. (I hope LiveShare uses a similar approach...?)
frik 9y ago
While Atom's Teletype works today. VSC Live Share is still unreleased "vamporware" (a term coined by MSFT). The ripping of Atom, rebranding it as VSC and doing a press release for such vital new feature is I guess pure coincidence, and not a typical tactic they are known for, right? Edit: > That's just patently false. Curious, how can it be patently false when "Visual Studio Code is based on technology from Github’s Atom editor". https://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/04/30/microsofts-cross-platform-visual-studio-code-app-is-based-on-githubs-atom-editor/ https://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/04/30/microsofts-cross-plat...
- rhencke 9y ago
  How on earth is VS Code a 'ripping and rebranding of Atom'? That's just patently false.
- TimTheTinker 9y ago
  Regarding Teletype vs LiveShare, your statements aren’t fair based on what I’ve read. It appears the teams have been working in isolation. Also the MS team’s deadline was planned to coincide with the MS Connect conference. (Maybe Atom’s announcement was planned to coincide with QConSF?)
- debaserab2 9y ago
  > Curious, how can it be patently false when "Visual Studio Code is based on technology from Github’s Atom editor". That would be electron. Electron was originally made for Atom and is now being used as a framework for many other desktop apps. All the guts and internals of VSCode are completely different than Atom's.
- rhencke 9y ago
  It's based on Electron, which used to be Atom Shell. You are conflating the editor Atom with its runtime. Lots of stuff is built on Electron. (Desktop Slack, Discord, Atom, VS Code, Kitematic, GitHub Desktop, etc.) Electron is not an editor framework. Your statements remain patently false.

Atom announced "Teletype" today: https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-with-teletype-for-atom.html https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-w...

lostintangent 9y ago

It's really exciting to see the energy being directed at improving developer collaboration!

peterkelly 9y ago
Did the two teams collaborate to make the editors protocol-compatible?
- TimTheTinker 9y ago
  Atom’s new Teletype protocol is open, so at minimum a Teletype-compatible plugin could be developed for VSCode. Note - the Teletype plugin initiates the connection via GitHub’s servers, but then the rest of the communication is entirely peer-to-peer via WebRTC. (I hope LiveShare uses a similar approach...?)

frik 9y ago

While Atom's Teletype works today. VSC Live Share is still unreleased "vamporware" (a term coined by MSFT). The ripping of Atom, rebranding it as VSC and doing a press release for such vital new feature is I guess pure coincidence, and not a typical tactic they are known for, right? Edit: > That's just patently false. Curious, how can it be patently false when "Visual Studio Code is based on technology from Github’s Atom editor". https://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/04/30/microsofts-cross-platform-visual-studio-code-app-is-based-on-githubs-atom-editor/ https://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/04/30/microsofts-cross-plat...

rhencke 9y ago
How on earth is VS Code a 'ripping and rebranding of Atom'? That's just patently false.
TimTheTinker 9y ago
Regarding Teletype vs LiveShare, your statements aren’t fair based on what I’ve read. It appears the teams have been working in isolation. Also the MS team’s deadline was planned to coincide with the MS Connect conference. (Maybe Atom’s announcement was planned to coincide with QConSF?)
debaserab2 9y ago
> Curious, how can it be patently false when "Visual Studio Code is based on technology from Github’s Atom editor". That would be electron. Electron was originally made for Atom and is now being used as a framework for many other desktop apps. All the guts and internals of VSCode are completely different than Atom's.
rhencke 9y ago
It's based on Electron, which used to be Atom Shell. You are conflating the editor Atom with its runtime. Lots of stuff is built on Electron. (Desktop Slack, Discord, Atom, VS Code, Kitematic, GitHub Desktop, etc.) Electron is not an editor framework. Your statements remain patently false.