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I bought this up on HN in the past[1], but it gets instantly downvoted( by gitlab employees?) , my comment was a response to CEO claiming how their marketing i
by dominotw 9y ago
I bought this up on HN in the past[1], but it gets instantly downvoted( by gitlab employees?) , my comment was a response to CEO claiming how their marketing is honest[2].
They also declared Gitlab CI as number one CI by excluding Jenkins because of their made up defintion of "modern" .
1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15590240 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15590240
2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15589654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15589654
- YorickPeterse 9y agoYou are most likely getting downvoted because of statements such as: > These guys are not honest people, just copycats under the guise of "open".
- dominotw 9y agoYou are right. Thats how i felt but that was unnecessary to say here. Deleted that from my comment.
- SmellyGeekBoy 9y agoThis whole thread is full of their employees arguing (quite aggressively in some cases) with people for calling them out or questioning their marketing claims. I wouldn't be surprised if they're downvoting en-masse too. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in their company and I'm surprised this type of behaviour is allowed on HN.
- compuguy 9y agoLast time I checked Jenkins is a modern CI product.
- ShabbosGoy 9y agoDepends on your definition of modern. I don't really care what you call it, the fact of the matter is that it's slow and an inferior product.
- dominotw 9y agoIts not relevant here if its inferior or not. Not counting your competition and declaring yourself as no.1 is dishonest.
- ShabbosGoy 9y agoI get that. But most likely, that whole spin is the marketing dept's fault. As I said in another comment, they are not technical enough to understand CI/CD and devops terminology.
- dominotw 9y agoThey are technical enough to evaluate Jenkins and declare it be not worthy enough to be counted as competition, but not technical enough to understand CI/CD. Seriously?
- praneshp 9y agoOne thing that is not modern: Having such an idiotic workflow that one engineer can cause a huge outage and delete stuff from prod db.
- ShabbosGoy 9y agoI understand that too. But in my experience, GitLab CI Runner is the fastest for our stack. I've seen build times reduced from 3 minutes to 59 seconds. I can give exact numbers if you want to scrutinize my statement more. Edit: I should add, our build artficats are deployed to staging and NOT production.
- praneshp 9y agoI don't have a problem believing that Gitlab could be faster for an org's stack, at all. I do have a problem with you implying Jenkins is not-modern by saying "depends on your definition of modern". Speed is only one factor. It's not ok to lie and hide behind "our marketing is clueless about our tech."
- ShabbosGoy 9y agoTo be completely honest, Jenkins is garbage slow enterprise tier. GitLab CI Runner is a pleasure to work with. Jenkins was hosted on our production box, and it used to freeze up whenever someone pushed. Marketing folks aren't technical enough to understand CI anyway. This is why marketing folks shouldn't step on us tech folks toes - you'll just look like an idiot and end up embarrassing yourself.