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Ghost of WWII: 1940's meticulously overlaid on modern day
- JacobAldridge 16y agoI don't know any of these locations, so I'm sure these are even more amazing for people familiar only with their current state of being. I particularly appreciated image 15 with the soldiers carrying the Soviet flag underneath the modern German flags.
- torpor 16y agoThe pictures of the Heldenplatz (here in Vienna) are particularly sobering, considering that its a very bright and vibrant place these days .. oh, except for the one week a year when the Austrian military put on their big displays there, of course .. that is a bit freaky.
- ahlatimer 16y agoHere is another set with a similar idea: http://www.flickr.com/photos/edrabbit/galleries/72157623103181304/page2/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/edrabbit/galleries/721576231031...
- jonursenbach 16y agoKind of depressing that most of the US will never have something as cool as this due to this countries lack of appreciation for dated architecture.
- JacobAldridge 16y agoThat, and the fact that the last war to be fought on US soil pre-dates the invention of film. (US Civil War ended in 1865; film was invented by George Eastman in 1884) Lamenting the lack of architectural appreciation remains worthwhile.
- eru 16y agoThere was enough inner-city decay and gentrification going on in the US, to make a comparison interesting even without a war.
- palish 16y agoLamenting the lack of architectural appreciation remains worthwhile. Why? Humans conform nature to our needs. If we need a better building, why shouldn't we tear down an old one? All of the previous building's history will remain documented in, say, Wikipedia. This is probably just the worldview of an inexperienced kid though. (This is an honest question, not a statement of opinion.)
- projectileboy 16y agoI agree, but what's considered valuable and what isn't is just fashion more often than not. And once the building is torn down, it's too late to reconsider.
- palish 16y agoThat's a good point. I'm just wondering why an old building should be preserved at all. (Honestly, why?)
- arethuza 16y agoFor me old and ancient buildings provide the soul of our cities - providing a tangible connection with the many generations of our ancestors. Of course, it helps that I live in a beautiful and old city (though hardly ancient compared to some) - as I write this I can look up at a castle perched on the plug of an extinct volcano, parts nearly a thousand years old, and think that this is really rather a nice place to live and work. I suggest you walk the streets of Rome or Istanbul, sit in the center of an Egyptian pyramid or wonder at the stone houses of Skara Brae and then consider what the value of "old buildings" are.
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- sliverstorm 16y agoThe buildings that tend to stick around the most seem to be made of rocks. The US doesn't build many buildings with rocks. (for the purposes of this statement, concrete is not a rock)
- Semiapies 16y agoExcept for the stone buildings that are still around. You have to look for them, though.
- Retric 16y agoI grew up in the USA in a house that is older than the United States. But you need to consider how small the population and its overall wealth back then. Building a stone house will last a lot longer but we had plenty of forests back so wood was far less expensive for poor people than it was in Europe. Now days you don’t see a lot of stone buildings being built in Europe because wood has become cheap there as well. PS: Also, the US population was around 1/4 th of Frances population 200 years ago and that ratio get's more extreme the further back you go.
- Vivtek 16y agoMy house, in 1905 and last year: http://big-old-house.blogspot.com/2009/09/then-1905-and-now-2009.html http://big-old-house.blogspot.com/2009/09/then-1905-and-now-...
- jacquesm 16y agoThat's so cool! My house is also from 1905: http://pics.ww.com/v/jacques/buildings/neatspot/07042007224.jpg.html http://pics.ww.com/v/jacques/buildings/neatspot/07042007224.... It's a tiny little farmhouse, I spent 2 years rebuilding it.
- Vivtek 16y agoWhat a pretty little house! Mine was actually built in 1885 according to the insurance company records of the day (back then, the insurance companies had an actual map of every house in a major town of Indiana, just in case somebody signed up for their insurance - and now it's all on microfiche at the library). The 1905 picture was the earliest I've found so far; it would have been interesting to see one from anything before 1901, when the front porch was built. I love the house; it's built to last and even has a brick outhouse (which was in fact built like a brick outhouse). The neighborhood, not so much. Richmond's fortunes have fallen since the 1800's.
- jacquesm 16y agoVery interesting to be able to pull that much historic information up from the records. I've traced some of the older occupants of the house that I live in (one guy in his late 80's!) and invited them over, it was quite the experience to hear them tell their stories. World War II started for the Netherlands about 500 meters from where my house is (it's right on the German border, the Northernmost crossing). If those old walls could tell stories...
- Hoff 16y agoWithout intending to make any comparisons with other events and locations, nor to imply any "coolness" might be involved with the death and destruction, some of the US events that could serve as fodder for photographic and historical retrospectives from the US and territories from the 20th century onward include: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Police_Strike http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Police_Strike http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_North_America_during_World_War_II http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_North_America_during... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guam_(1944) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guam_(1944) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Arizona_Memorial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Arizona_Memorial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pastorius http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pastorius (unsuccessful) http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Midway http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Midway http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/exhibits/ww2/threat/bombs.htm http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/exhibits/ww2/threat/bombs.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Happy_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Happy_Time http://lebanon.usembassy.gov/ http://lebanon.usembassy.gov/ There are other examples.
- Retric 16y agoI grew up in the USA in a house that is older than the United States. But you need to consider how small the population and it's overall wealth back then. Building a stone house will last a lot longer but we had plenty of forests back so wood was far less expensive for poor people than it was in Europe. PS: Also the US population was less than 1/7 th of Europe’s 200 years ago.
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- pvg 16y agohttp://sergey-larenkov.livejournal.com/ http://sergey-larenkov.livejournal.com/ Original source, also lists the locations. There are also places in a number of these cities where limited amounts of the ww2 damage are left un-repaired, as a memorial and a live version of these composites.
- torpor 16y agoI live in Vienna, and am constantly on the lookout for signs of the old wars. Its a very sobering experience to walk down some street and then realize later that was the site of intense street fighting and massacre.
- pvg 16y agoThere are, I believe, buildings in Vienna where the bullet holes are left unplastered and the cyrillic graffiti left by Soviet soldiers can still be read. At least, there were when I lived there a decade or so ago. And, of course, there is this http://pics.livejournal.com/sergey_larenkov/pic/0005twp2 http://pics.livejournal.com/sergey_larenkov/pic/0005twp2
- ahoyhere 16y agoYes, there are a few. The most recent one I saw was in the 5th district, by the Schlossquadrat, on a backstreet. It had a plaque.
- konve 16y agoThank you. This one just... froze me. http://pics.livejournal.com/sergey_larenkov/pic/000029eg/ http://pics.livejournal.com/sergey_larenkov/pic/000029eg/
- xyzzyb 16y agoI find this one to be most unsettling: http://pics.livejournal.com/sergey_larenkov/pic/0002922z/ http://pics.livejournal.com/sergey_larenkov/pic/0002922z/
- brc 16y agoAs remote as these images might feel, it's important to remember that some of our parents and grandparents went through this time. We always feel that the world is a peaceful place, but things got this bad in a very short space of time. Certainly in a shorter space of time than the war in Iraq has been going on. Things can fall apart very quickly, and the ones who fight for peace the most are those who can remember once proud buildings with artillery damage, and soldiers on the streets with weapons ready. Peace is a fractious and rare state in human history, it's easy to forget that in a modern life. That's where the power of these images lie.
- grigory 16y agoWhile I agree with you, I wanted to provide a different perspective on how "remote" these images might seem. (I might be misunderstanding meaning you're putting behind that word. If so, please forgive me!) I'm Russian, and I grew up in different parts of USSR and later ex-USSR. All of my older relatives were, in some sense, involved in WW2. A big part of my family died during that time - some killed in fighting, some from hunger, some from random bullets, some because of repressions of that time... That war greatly affected every family I know, usually in most tragic ways. So to many people over there, such photographs are not "remote" at all - they are an integral part of their own history. At the same time, it is saddening to see a new generation grow up oblivious to what their grandparents went through... People forget so easily!
- brc 16y agoclarification : remote as in 'a long time ago'. As you say, the new generation sees black and white images and thinks it happened a long time ago. I was specifically speaking about families like yours, who have lived through this, my point being it might feel remote to a young person raised on a life of peace and prosperity, but for many people it is very real.
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- jacquesm 16y agoThe Euro-centric view is that Europe is the battlefield of the world, and that Poland is the battlefield of Europe, and during World War II that was more true than ever before or since. The cities of Rotterdam ('the city without a heart') and Dresden still tell a pretty grim tale today if your eyes are open to it, and Warsaw and Poznan have plenty of places where the repair still hasn't caught up with the damage. There isn't a month that somebody doesn't dig up a piece of ordnance (in some cases very large bombs) when working on their houses or doing public works. Be grateful for the world you live in and strive to minimise war, it wasn't always this peaceful and the chance is that it will not always be. Europe is still quite anti-war (in spite of the apparent ease with which some countries, including mine joined the Iraq adventure) there are lots of older people here that still remember what it was like. But we tend to forget and when the last of them dies and stops reminding us how bad war really is the risk is very large that past stupidities will be repeated.
- pw_pw_pw 16y agoThis is trailer of animated reconstruction of Warsaw after uprising in 1944: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYmxhnIJ3g4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYmxhnIJ3g4&feature=relat...
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- ugh 16y agoWhat Europe can be quite proud of is how not only war was avoided during the last decades but also that war was made less likely over the decades. Suggesting that there could be war between Germany and France would be crazy today but certainly wasn’t always. That’s not just some flimsy anti-war sentiment which can change as new generations take over, that actually has something to do with lasting change initiated by the war and post-war generation after the war. The EU is the most visible symbol of that change and for all the flack it gets, European integration made war less likely.
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- panic 16y agoIt would be really neat if this were interactive — that is, if you could paint on the modern image to reveal the 1940s image underneath.
- torpor 16y agoThis set of data is just screaming to be turned into an iPhone app .. imagine, you're somewhere in Europe. The GPS figures out where, and gives you a picture (modern-day) to wipe your fingers over .. revealing the WW2-era pic underneath. For some European cities, this would be killer .. I know a lot of people who are interested in the history of Europe from the perspective of WW2, and this could be quite an intriguing application to develop ..
- Hume62 16y agoDon't think I have read about any well-funded startups in this area yet, but boy there's a business opportunity here. Aside from the major historical locations, most every state/city in the US has a "historical society" of some sort that has thousands/millions of old pictures laying around. My own (Minneapolis) had a project many years back where they went around and took a pic of every single house in the city limits. I'd like to be able to go to a cool neighborhood and point my phone to a street corner and see what was there, sort of my own interactive history lesson. Rather than each of these government agencies or museums figuring out how to do an aug reality app on their own dime, someone needs to build the template/service and offer it up.
- torpor 16y agoThis is really a great idea. I'd love to be involved in such a startup .. iPhone/Android/PlaszmaOS/Angstrom developer here, ready to be recruited!! :)
- ericboggs 16y agoThese photos are beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
- naa42 16y agoAnother interesting idea is to compare modern satelite view on google maps with aero photographs from WWII. Here is Leningrad/Saint-Petersburg, which is depicted on many Sergey Larenkov's photographs: http://wwii.sasgis.ru/en/?lat=59.945749&lon=30.331364&z=12 http://wwii.sasgis.ru/en/?lat=59.945749&lon=30.331364...