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It's odd that this was posted as I was thinking along these lines the other day. I have a 2012 Retina 15". The first generation. I spec'd it out at the time ho

by afinno 9y ago

It's odd that this was posted as I was thinking along these lines the other day. I have a 2012 Retina 15". The first generation. I spec'd it out at the time hoping for it to last me at least a few years. From 2015 I've been eyeing off every new release of Macbook Pro thinking "yeah this time I'll upgrade" but then I realise there is actually nothing wrong with my current one. Like, nothing at all. I realise the battery is going die eventually and software updates will no longer be supported at some point, but for now it really is the best computer I've ever owned. Note: I've been on all sides of the fence (Amiga/win95->winVista/OSX) so I'm not just a fanboi.

shalmanese 9y ago
Were the issues with mouse lag on the 2012 model hardware or software related? I tried a 2012 right when it first came out and got physically nauseous from the extreme degree of mouse lag when scrolling. The 2013 never had any problems and I've been using that for the last 4 years.
- thinkythought 9y ago
  This was completely corrected in software in the next big OS release. It was HORRENDOUS at launch though. It's smooth as butter on the latest version, with the same hardware. Machine runs cooler too
- omikun 9y ago
  Definitely a software issue. I have the 2012 model and it would lag in expose. But after the metal upgrade it got a lot smoother. Still gets choppy with many apps, but otherwise smooth animations in most places.
jseliger 9y ago
but for now it really is the best computer I've ever owned. I mentioned this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15700403 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15700403 regarding the 12" Macbook, but I'm baffled by the size of the trackpads on the new laptops. What's the point of having trackpads that large? It seems only to impair usability.
thinkythought 9y ago
I'm on the same machine and i feel exactly the same way. It's been used hard for years and actually works BETTER now than when i bought it, with software updates(mountain lion was... questionable). The battery is still healthy, and it still tackles anything i throw at it. Why would i upgrade to in many ways a crappier computer? I'm hoping with the new mac pro we get a real macbook pro again. And i'm coming at this from the same place, i've used all different platforms. But this is the best laptop i've ever owned, and my favorite since my old T60. It was the first one that really felt like it not just checked every box, but filled out every corner.
- afinno 9y ago
  Hah yeah my previous best computer was my IBM T40p. Did a lot of travelling with that and it could take a beating. IBM made some top notch stuff.
raincom 9y ago
After 1000 cycles or after 4 years, just have the battery replaced by Apple for $199 + taxes, then you will have a good macbook pro, as apple will replace the keyboard and trackpad, along with the battery for $199.
- roryisok 9y ago
  Eventually they'll stop replacing that model of battery though
- ksec 9y ago
  >as apple will replace the keyboard and trackpad, along with the battery for $199. Is this standard for all MacBook?
  - raincom 9y ago
    It is the standard for any laptop in which batteries are glued to the top case. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/retina-battery-replacement-new-top-case.1729478/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/retina-battery-replacem...

by afinno 9y ago

shalmanese 9y ago

Were the issues with mouse lag on the 2012 model hardware or software related? I tried a 2012 right when it first came out and got physically nauseous from the extreme degree of mouse lag when scrolling. The 2013 never had any problems and I've been using that for the last 4 years.

thinkythought 9y ago
This was completely corrected in software in the next big OS release. It was HORRENDOUS at launch though. It's smooth as butter on the latest version, with the same hardware. Machine runs cooler too
omikun 9y ago
Definitely a software issue. I have the 2012 model and it would lag in expose. But after the metal upgrade it got a lot smoother. Still gets choppy with many apps, but otherwise smooth animations in most places.

jseliger 9y ago

but for now it really is the best computer I've ever owned. I mentioned this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15700403 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15700403 regarding the 12" Macbook, but I'm baffled by the size of the trackpads on the new laptops. What's the point of having trackpads that large? It seems only to impair usability.

thinkythought 9y ago

I'm on the same machine and i feel exactly the same way. It's been used hard for years and actually works BETTER now than when i bought it, with software updates(mountain lion was... questionable). The battery is still healthy, and it still tackles anything i throw at it. Why would i upgrade to in many ways a crappier computer? I'm hoping with the new mac pro we get a real macbook pro again. And i'm coming at this from the same place, i've used all different platforms. But this is the best laptop i've ever owned, and my favorite since my old T60. It was the first one that really felt like it not just checked every box, but filled out every corner.

afinno 9y ago
Hah yeah my previous best computer was my IBM T40p. Did a lot of travelling with that and it could take a beating. IBM made some top notch stuff.

raincom 9y ago

After 1000 cycles or after 4 years, just have the battery replaced by Apple for $199 + taxes, then you will have a good macbook pro, as apple will replace the keyboard and trackpad, along with the battery for $199.

roryisok 9y ago
Eventually they'll stop replacing that model of battery though
ksec 9y ago
>as apple will replace the keyboard and trackpad, along with the battery for $199. Is this standard for all MacBook?
- raincom 9y ago
  It is the standard for any laptop in which batteries are glued to the top case. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/retina-battery-replacement-new-top-case.1729478/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/retina-battery-replacem...