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> Decades of UI/UX knowledge, down the drain. Usability is gone. Exactly the opposite; this is an evolution that has been taking place over the past decade. F

> Decades of UI/UX knowledge, down the drain. Usability is gone. Exactly the opposite; this is an evolution that has been taking place over the past decade. Firefox has had tabs-on-top as the default since Firefox v4.0[1]. Chrome has had tabs-on-top for its entire existence (starting in Sept 2008); Opera had them before Chrome. The merits can be argued either way, but don't act like this is sudden or arbitrary; it's neither. Consider that maybe--just maybe--the dev teams at Mozilla, Google, et al. have done some usability studies in the past decade that informed these decisions. I get that you may prefer tabs below the URL bar, but your claims about the greater state of UX are baseless and absurd. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgtW2Iw-kE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgtW2Iw-kE posted June 2010 EDIT: Google made a comic for the release of Chrome 1.0 that includes an explanation of their original rationale for putting tabs on top. https://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/big_18.html https://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/big_18.html

msla 9y ago
De gustibus non est disputandum The idea that someone else can know what another wants better than the other person is absurd. Your arguments might be valid for defaults, but they must be configurable defaults, because taste is subjective, arbitrary, and, despite what some believe, never in error. I know what UX I want better than anyone else. Nobody can gainsay my personal taste.
- walterstucco 9y ago
  Or maybe they just do and you're just wrong We don't have a configuration to put the clutch pedal on the right side Do we?
- walterstucco 9y ago
  Besides, de gustibus non est disputandum doesn't mean what you think It means that is useless to discuss about other living being tastes, not that Mozilla should provide every single configuration you want In this case you're the Romans eating the asparagus with the butter in Milan while in Rome they preferred olive oil and Mozilla is the Milanese host serving you the butter asparagus In Italy we have a say: "you either eat this soup or you jump out of the window"

msla 9y ago

De gustibus non est disputandum The idea that someone else can know what another wants better than the other person is absurd. Your arguments might be valid for defaults, but they must be configurable defaults, because taste is subjective, arbitrary, and, despite what some believe, never in error. I know what UX I want better than anyone else. Nobody can gainsay my personal taste.

walterstucco 9y ago
Or maybe they just do and you're just wrong We don't have a configuration to put the clutch pedal on the right side Do we?
walterstucco 9y ago
Besides, de gustibus non est disputandum doesn't mean what you think It means that is useless to discuss about other living being tastes, not that Mozilla should provide every single configuration you want In this case you're the Romans eating the asparagus with the butter in Milan while in Rome they preferred olive oil and Mozilla is the Milanese host serving you the butter asparagus In Italy we have a say: "you either eat this soup or you jump out of the window"