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This has the markings of a PR stunt. As a reader of the article, I'm very curious what the badges look like, as those are a legitimate cause for concern for se

This has the markings of a PR stunt. As a reader of the article, I'm very curious what the badges look like, as those are a legitimate cause for concern for security. Any legitimate reporting on this issue would investigate that detail.

SilasX 9y ago
lol it worked for me -- this is the first I've heard of dev/Mission and it led me to look them up. (Hi Rick.) As noted in my other post, they were a different color and didn't have the bearer's (or any) name on them, which is a questionable decision by itself.
frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago
Why should it matter what they look like if someone from Salesforce says they are legit?
- RickHull 9y ago
  Because it explains the behavior of the security guards, presuming they didn't "get the memo" about a small group of people with fake-looking badges that are actually legitimate.
  - PhasmaFelis 9y ago
    Again, why would the security guards not trust the judgment of an employee of the company that hired them? In the absence of an immediate and obvious threat, how is that justified?
    - praneshp 9y ago
      > Again, why would the security guards not trust the judgment of an employee of the company that hired them? This would be a stupid thing to do, even at the office. They could listen maybe the director of physical security, etc, but not a random employee. Especially for a company of Salesforce's size.
      - viraptor 9y ago
        If a random employee told them the badges are ok, they should've deferred to someone who can make the decision. Either a) the employee's right and the badges are ok, or b) the employee's trying to trick security and should be reported to the company. They did not have to make a final decision on the spot.
        praneshp 9y ago
        Maybe they should have done (b), sure. Otherwise, the badges are not ok for security, and a random employee telling them anything doesn't change status quo.
  - watwut 9y ago
    If security guards don't know how badges looks like, your security organization is crappy as hell. It does not matter whether badge looks ugly or not, guard is supposed to know it.
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SilasX 9y ago

lol it worked for me -- this is the first I've heard of dev/Mission and it led me to look them up. (Hi Rick.) As noted in my other post, they were a different color and didn't have the bearer's (or any) name on them, which is a questionable decision by itself.

frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago

Why should it matter what they look like if someone from Salesforce says they are legit?

RickHull 9y ago
Because it explains the behavior of the security guards, presuming they didn't "get the memo" about a small group of people with fake-looking badges that are actually legitimate.
- PhasmaFelis 9y ago
  Again, why would the security guards not trust the judgment of an employee of the company that hired them? In the absence of an immediate and obvious threat, how is that justified?
  - praneshp 9y ago
    > Again, why would the security guards not trust the judgment of an employee of the company that hired them? This would be a stupid thing to do, even at the office. They could listen maybe the director of physical security, etc, but not a random employee. Especially for a company of Salesforce's size.
    - viraptor 9y ago
      If a random employee told them the badges are ok, they should've deferred to someone who can make the decision. Either a) the employee's right and the badges are ok, or b) the employee's trying to trick security and should be reported to the company. They did not have to make a final decision on the spot.
      - praneshp 9y ago
        Maybe they should have done (b), sure. Otherwise, the badges are not ok for security, and a random employee telling them anything doesn't change status quo.
- watwut 9y ago
  If security guards don't know how badges looks like, your security organization is crappy as hell. It does not matter whether badge looks ugly or not, guard is supposed to know it.

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