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Anyone know where one can buy an ARM server to run this on?

by SEJeff 9y ago

mtgx 9y ago
Cavium and Qualcomm sell the "top" Arm servers. There's also AppliedMicro but not sure what kind of future they have there.
chr15p 9y ago
Shamelessly stealing links from the discussion on https://lwn.net/Articles/738898/ https://lwn.net/Articles/738898/ https://www.avantek.co.uk/arm-server-h270-t70/ https://www.avantek.co.uk/arm-server-h270-t70/] http://www.asacomputers.com/Cavium-ThunderX-ARM.html http://www.asacomputers.com/Cavium-ThunderX-ARM.html https://system76.com/servers/starling https://system76.com/servers/starling https://www.deltacomputer.com/hochleistungs-rechner/stand.. https://www.deltacomputer.com/hochleistungs-rechner/stand...
- flyinghamster 9y ago
  I hope prices on high-performance ARM hardware can come down a bit. Currently there's nothing between Chromebooks and $3000+ servers. On the other hand, if I were in the market for a high-end server, it looks pretty competitive vs. Xeon or Epyc. Any good benchmarks out there?
  - jabl 9y ago
    HPC stuff: https://www.nextplatform.com/2017/11/13/arm-benchmarks-show-hpc-ripe-processor-shakeup/ https://www.nextplatform.com/2017/11/13/arm-benchmarks-show-...
  - yazr 9y ago
    Full 96 core baremetal ARM64 servers from $0.50 per hour: https://www.packet.net/bare-metal/servers/type-2a/ https://www.packet.net/bare-metal/servers/type-2a/ Or Low end VM's from 3€ month: https://www.scaleway.com/armv8-cloud-servers/ https://www.scaleway.com/armv8-cloud-servers/
  - andreiw 9y ago
    https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/armada-8040-community-board/ https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/armada-8040-... softiron.com for the OverDrive 1000.
    - flyinghamster 9y ago
      Hmmm, there's a lot of interesting stuff over there. If I didn't already have a dedicated router, the ClearFog boards look like a very nice router platform. https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/clearfog/ https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/clearfog/
  - Avernar 9y ago
    Yeah, I'd love to get a couple of ARM servers for home use.
jokr004 9y ago
It seems like the ThunderX chips from Cavium are the most prevalent 64-bit arm marketed as server platforms. Very high core count, high memory capacity.. I've been hoping that these things take off because I love the idea: http://www.cavium.com/ThunderX_ARM_Processors.html http://www.cavium.com/ThunderX_ARM_Processors.html System76 has a server using this chipset: https://system76.com/servers/starling https://system76.com/servers/starling and Gigabyte has a whole line of them: http://b2b.gigabyte.com/ARM-Server/Cavium-ThunderX http://b2b.gigabyte.com/ARM-Server/Cavium-ThunderX
wyldfire 9y ago
HPE is planning to offer Apollo 70 w/Cavium and/or Qualcomm's chips.
andreiw 9y ago
SoftIron.com. Cheapest option (OverDrive 1000) is $599. https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/armada-8040-community-board/ https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/armada-8040-... - $369 https://www.phoenicselectronics.com https://www.phoenicselectronics.com will sell you a Gigabyte MT30-GS2 (Cavium ThunderX 32-core) 1U system for around $2k. If you want to provide your own ATX case - much less. ThunderX2 and Qualcomm Centriq (3rd gen arm server) systems have been recently announced (as in GA), but those will set you back quite a bit because they're not toys. But if you look at the 1st and 2nd gen systems, those are quite approachable.
- StillBored 9y ago
  It should be pointed out that the solid-run machine, while in theory a decent machine isn't going to run Redhat, or for that matter much beyond the image its shipping with. That _may_ change, but right now its not quite done cooking. That said, outside of the 10G Ethernet, its pretty much bested by just about every m-itx x86 board in that price range. Plus, if you happen to need the 10G, its still probably less expensive to pick up a G4400+motherboard+10GbaseT board (new dual port on ebay for about $100) and best that machine in most cases.
  - andreiw 9y ago
    “besting” is very relative. Workloads in such footprints are usually power constrained and I am not aware of any x86 solutions involving a discrete NIC that can do 20Gbps at 35W. Yep, ACPI support is evolving, but it’s a matter of time. Folks have figured finally that if it isn’t compliant with SBBR and SBSA, then there will be plenty of competitors who will be, absolving you of the headache of dead-end BSPs.
    - StillBored 9y ago
      Maybe something like http://asrock.com/mb/Intel/J3455-ITX/ http://asrock.com/mb/Intel/J3455-ITX/ (random hit with a J3455 core, $74 at newegg at the moment) The base processor is rated at 10W for 4 cores, add ~8W for the 10GbaseT board (plus a bit) and its a competitive solution, particularly if your workload needs more RAM/etc. Feeling like you want a little more beef the Denverton's are hitting the market and many of them have the 10G integrated. https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/A2SDi-H-TF.cfm https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/A2SDi-H... That one also has a BMC, which given my past experience tends to add a few watts too. Without testing them side by side its hard to know which draws more power in a given workload, particularly since the intel machines have become very dynamic over the last couple generations, its actually pretty hard to hit their TDP numbers in most cases (particularly without heavy FP workloads). Now its become more about what the motherboard manufacture has integrated. Its all fine that the core/etc draws 8 watts. The problem happens when the motherboard manufacture decides to glue an aspeed BMC and an old marvell SATA controller on the board. Between them at idle they draw 2x more power than the SOC does running at peak. Its pretty easy to move the numbers one way or the other with unrelated changes. EDIT: Discovered after posting that the PCIe on the asrock, is only x1 which keeps it from taking one of the x540T boards, but they have a couple variations including one for less money in m-atx which has a potentially better slot layout, and full size DIMM's.

Anyone know where one can buy an ARM server to run this on?

by SEJeff 9y ago

Anyone know where one can buy an ARM server to run this on?

mtgx 9y ago

Cavium and Qualcomm sell the "top" Arm servers. There's also AppliedMicro but not sure what kind of future they have there.

chr15p 9y ago

Shamelessly stealing links from the discussion on https://lwn.net/Articles/738898/ https://lwn.net/Articles/738898/ https://www.avantek.co.uk/arm-server-h270-t70/ https://www.avantek.co.uk/arm-server-h270-t70/] http://www.asacomputers.com/Cavium-ThunderX-ARM.html http://www.asacomputers.com/Cavium-ThunderX-ARM.html https://system76.com/servers/starling https://system76.com/servers/starling https://www.deltacomputer.com/hochleistungs-rechner/stand.. https://www.deltacomputer.com/hochleistungs-rechner/stand...

flyinghamster 9y ago
I hope prices on high-performance ARM hardware can come down a bit. Currently there's nothing between Chromebooks and $3000+ servers. On the other hand, if I were in the market for a high-end server, it looks pretty competitive vs. Xeon or Epyc. Any good benchmarks out there?
- jabl 9y ago
  HPC stuff: https://www.nextplatform.com/2017/11/13/arm-benchmarks-show-hpc-ripe-processor-shakeup/ https://www.nextplatform.com/2017/11/13/arm-benchmarks-show-...
- yazr 9y ago
  Full 96 core baremetal ARM64 servers from $0.50 per hour: https://www.packet.net/bare-metal/servers/type-2a/ https://www.packet.net/bare-metal/servers/type-2a/ Or Low end VM's from 3€ month: https://www.scaleway.com/armv8-cloud-servers/ https://www.scaleway.com/armv8-cloud-servers/
- andreiw 9y ago
  https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/armada-8040-community-board/ https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/armada-8040-... softiron.com for the OverDrive 1000.
  - flyinghamster 9y ago
    Hmmm, there's a lot of interesting stuff over there. If I didn't already have a dedicated router, the ClearFog boards look like a very nice router platform. https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/clearfog/ https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/clearfog/
- Avernar 9y ago
  Yeah, I'd love to get a couple of ARM servers for home use.

jokr004 9y ago

It seems like the ThunderX chips from Cavium are the most prevalent 64-bit arm marketed as server platforms. Very high core count, high memory capacity.. I've been hoping that these things take off because I love the idea: http://www.cavium.com/ThunderX_ARM_Processors.html http://www.cavium.com/ThunderX_ARM_Processors.html System76 has a server using this chipset: https://system76.com/servers/starling https://system76.com/servers/starling and Gigabyte has a whole line of them: http://b2b.gigabyte.com/ARM-Server/Cavium-ThunderX http://b2b.gigabyte.com/ARM-Server/Cavium-ThunderX

wyldfire 9y ago

HPE is planning to offer Apollo 70 w/Cavium and/or Qualcomm's chips.

andreiw 9y ago

SoftIron.com. Cheapest option (OverDrive 1000) is $599. https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/armada-8040-community-board/ https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/armada-8040-... - $369 https://www.phoenicselectronics.com https://www.phoenicselectronics.com will sell you a Gigabyte MT30-GS2 (Cavium ThunderX 32-core) 1U system for around $2k. If you want to provide your own ATX case - much less. ThunderX2 and Qualcomm Centriq (3rd gen arm server) systems have been recently announced (as in GA), but those will set you back quite a bit because they're not toys. But if you look at the 1st and 2nd gen systems, those are quite approachable.

StillBored 9y ago
It should be pointed out that the solid-run machine, while in theory a decent machine isn't going to run Redhat, or for that matter much beyond the image its shipping with. That _may_ change, but right now its not quite done cooking. That said, outside of the 10G Ethernet, its pretty much bested by just about every m-itx x86 board in that price range. Plus, if you happen to need the 10G, its still probably less expensive to pick up a G4400+motherboard+10GbaseT board (new dual port on ebay for about $100) and best that machine in most cases.
- andreiw 9y ago
  “besting” is very relative. Workloads in such footprints are usually power constrained and I am not aware of any x86 solutions involving a discrete NIC that can do 20Gbps at 35W. Yep, ACPI support is evolving, but it’s a matter of time. Folks have figured finally that if it isn’t compliant with SBBR and SBSA, then there will be plenty of competitors who will be, absolving you of the headache of dead-end BSPs.
  - StillBored 9y ago
    Maybe something like http://asrock.com/mb/Intel/J3455-ITX/ http://asrock.com/mb/Intel/J3455-ITX/ (random hit with a J3455 core, $74 at newegg at the moment) The base processor is rated at 10W for 4 cores, add ~8W for the 10GbaseT board (plus a bit) and its a competitive solution, particularly if your workload needs more RAM/etc. Feeling like you want a little more beef the Denverton's are hitting the market and many of them have the 10G integrated. https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/A2SDi-H-TF.cfm https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/A2SDi-H... That one also has a BMC, which given my past experience tends to add a few watts too. Without testing them side by side its hard to know which draws more power in a given workload, particularly since the intel machines have become very dynamic over the last couple generations, its actually pretty hard to hit their TDP numbers in most cases (particularly without heavy FP workloads). Now its become more about what the motherboard manufacture has integrated. Its all fine that the core/etc draws 8 watts. The problem happens when the motherboard manufacture decides to glue an aspeed BMC and an old marvell SATA controller on the board. Between them at idle they draw 2x more power than the SOC does running at peak. Its pretty easy to move the numbers one way or the other with unrelated changes. EDIT: Discovered after posting that the PCIe on the asrock, is only x1 which keeps it from taking one of the x540T boards, but they have a couple variations including one for less money in m-atx which has a potentially better slot layout, and full size DIMM's.