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I think this just applies to the commercialized versions of those foods in the foreign countries. The pizza you linked to from Mexico looks like something you

I think this just applies to the commercialized versions of those foods in the foreign countries. The pizza you linked to from Mexico looks like something you would get from any fast food pizza place in America and the Italian one looks like a margherita slice from any half decent pizza place in NYC. Same goes for the tacos. The "American" one just looks like something you get from Taco Bell while the "Original" looks like something I would get from a local taco truck. The burrito is an interesting case. I do think that's evolved a bit in America to the point where everyone is copying Chipotle and Qdoba and trying to make the biggest burritos.

jhulla 9y ago
I personally love the burrito variations up and down California. I grew up on Mission burritos in SF. With Taqueria Cancun being a personal favorite. But - holy moly - San Diego burritos are out of of this world. Burritos with meat, avocado and french fries. Heaven.
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msla 9y ago
All food which is being sold is "commercialized".
- dalbasal 9y ago
  c'mon. It's really hard to talk about anything if we can't use shorthand at all. We all know what he means.
  - msla 9y ago
    I don't like dishonesty and smuggled premises.
pavement 9y ago
In many parts of the United States, well into the nineties, there were no Taco Bell tacos. I didn't get to try Taco Bell until 1995. Growing up, Burritos were these frozen bean-paste wraps, with "meat" included sometimes, that you got from the super market and microwaved in multiple passes, until years later when Taco Bell appeared. Then after The Year 2000, some truly incredible Big Burrito shacks started popping up, with these gigantic, incredible 1.5 pound burritos, right before Chipotle began its massive expansion. Otherwise, there were some rare Spanish restaurant chains like Meson, Olé! (still around), which were sit down affairs, with what seemed like (nearly extravagant) gourmet foreign cuisine, when stood next to the frozen burritos. Their freebie table nachos were these amazing and decadent snacks as a kid. Pizza looked like neither, and gambling on pizza beyond the New York tri-state area was certainly taking a chance. I remember eating a pizza in Pennsylvania in the late 80's on one occasion, and it was hard/crunchy, almost stale-ish, cardboard-style flatbread, with "sauce" and "cheese" on top. That's the most memorable incident, but the prevailing wisdom was true: don't get Pizza outside of New York. Plain cheese brick oven pizza comes close to what people view(ed) as New York style pizza, even if you might find lots of the "original" example in NYC. Otherwise, mass produced Pizza Hut or Little Ceaser's were the only two consistent regional options for a long time, and while edible, each was a variation of "pizza" and not Pizza.
- curtis 9y ago
  > ... with these massive, incredible 1.5 pound burritos... This is the "Mission-style Burrito" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_burrito https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_burrito). I first encountered them in San Francisco in 1997, where I found them to be quite a novelty, even though I was coming from Texas and had a more than passing familiarity with burritos. Chipotle has now popularized them nation-wide, of course.
msla 9y ago
All food which is being sold is "commercialized". Don't try to smuggle in the "small companies are good, big ones are bad" premise. If you believe that, state it honestly.

jhulla 9y ago

I personally love the burrito variations up and down California. I grew up on Mission burritos in SF. With Taqueria Cancun being a personal favorite. But - holy moly - San Diego burritos are out of of this world. Burritos with meat, avocado and french fries. Heaven.

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msla 9y ago

All food which is being sold is "commercialized".

dalbasal 9y ago
c'mon. It's really hard to talk about anything if we can't use shorthand at all. We all know what he means.
- msla 9y ago
  I don't like dishonesty and smuggled premises.

pavement 9y ago

In many parts of the United States, well into the nineties, there were no Taco Bell tacos. I didn't get to try Taco Bell until 1995. Growing up, Burritos were these frozen bean-paste wraps, with "meat" included sometimes, that you got from the super market and microwaved in multiple passes, until years later when Taco Bell appeared. Then after The Year 2000, some truly incredible Big Burrito shacks started popping up, with these gigantic, incredible 1.5 pound burritos, right before Chipotle began its massive expansion. Otherwise, there were some rare Spanish restaurant chains like Meson, Olé! (still around), which were sit down affairs, with what seemed like (nearly extravagant) gourmet foreign cuisine, when stood next to the frozen burritos. Their freebie table nachos were these amazing and decadent snacks as a kid. Pizza looked like neither, and gambling on pizza beyond the New York tri-state area was certainly taking a chance. I remember eating a pizza in Pennsylvania in the late 80's on one occasion, and it was hard/crunchy, almost stale-ish, cardboard-style flatbread, with "sauce" and "cheese" on top. That's the most memorable incident, but the prevailing wisdom was true: don't get Pizza outside of New York. Plain cheese brick oven pizza comes close to what people view(ed) as New York style pizza, even if you might find lots of the "original" example in NYC. Otherwise, mass produced Pizza Hut or Little Ceaser's were the only two consistent regional options for a long time, and while edible, each was a variation of "pizza" and not Pizza.

curtis 9y ago
> ... with these massive, incredible 1.5 pound burritos... This is the "Mission-style Burrito" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_burrito https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_burrito). I first encountered them in San Francisco in 1997, where I found them to be quite a novelty, even though I was coming from Texas and had a more than passing familiarity with burritos. Chipotle has now popularized them nation-wide, of course.

msla 9y ago

All food which is being sold is "commercialized". Don't try to smuggle in the "small companies are good, big ones are bad" premise. If you believe that, state it honestly.