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A People's History of the United States (Zinn) [http://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States-Present/dp/0060838655/ http://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History

by brianto2010 16y ago

A People's History of the United States (Zinn) [http://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States-Present/dp/0060838655/ http://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States-Present/...] There's so much history that isn't taught in school (politically covered up) and Zinn presents many of these little-known history gems. Be warned, there is a light liberal swing.

shmulkey18 16y ago
Light liberal? Zinn is hard left, and writes history accordingly.
- brianto2010 16y ago
  I guess it's a bit late, but I was joking. If it were truly light, I wouldn't have mentioned (noticed) it. I'll put smileys next to jokes next time, OK?
ashconnor 16y ago
I like the way Zinn details that America was founded upon genocide. This is very glossed over in history classes even here in Europe. Also I agree that you can't be objective in history, all sources have their bias.
Shmulkey 16y ago
Zinn is an ideologue who picks his facts based on the social goal he is trying to achieve (imposition of a Marxist system in the US): http://hnn.us/articles/1493.html http://hnn.us/articles/1493.html: “Objectivity is impossible,” Zinn once remarked, “and it is also undesirable. That is, if it were possible it would be undesirable, because if you have any kind of a social aim, if you think history should serve society in some way; should serve the progress of the human race; should serve justice in some way, then it requires that you make your selection on the basis of what you think will advance causes of humanity.”
- Mod_daniel 16y ago
  troll much? Nothing, in any of his writing, and certainly not that quote, give any indication of a desire to "impose a marxist system". Sounds kind of like your the ideologue here. I fail to understand how relating the experiences of those who built the country you probably think you value would be such a threat to its survival.

shmulkey18 16y ago

Light liberal? Zinn is hard left, and writes history accordingly.

brianto2010 16y ago
I guess it's a bit late, but I was joking. If it were truly light, I wouldn't have mentioned (noticed) it. I'll put smileys next to jokes next time, OK?

ashconnor 16y ago

I like the way Zinn details that America was founded upon genocide. This is very glossed over in history classes even here in Europe. Also I agree that you can't be objective in history, all sources have their bias.

Shmulkey 16y ago

Zinn is an ideologue who picks his facts based on the social goal he is trying to achieve (imposition of a Marxist system in the US): http://hnn.us/articles/1493.html http://hnn.us/articles/1493.html: “Objectivity is impossible,” Zinn once remarked, “and it is also undesirable. That is, if it were possible it would be undesirable, because if you have any kind of a social aim, if you think history should serve society in some way; should serve the progress of the human race; should serve justice in some way, then it requires that you make your selection on the basis of what you think will advance causes of humanity.”

Mod_daniel 16y ago
troll much? Nothing, in any of his writing, and certainly not that quote, give any indication of a desire to "impose a marxist system". Sounds kind of like your the ideologue here. I fail to understand how relating the experiences of those who built the country you probably think you value would be such a threat to its survival.