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Downvotes are expected, your post lacks tact. But it would be worrying if people ignored the reality of girls being exploited and exploiting themselves online i

Downvotes are expected, your post lacks tact. But it would be worrying if people ignored the reality of girls being exploited and exploiting themselves online in various gaming circles for financial gain. I don't particularly have a problem with it, but it's not a small thing.

cavanasm 9y ago
There's also the problem where girls are heavily targeted for harassment still in the streaming community. I'm under the impression it's slowly improving, but there was a well known twitch user who was a serial SWATer (calling the police and telling them a multiple homicide is occurring / hostages have been taken so that a SWAT team shows up to the streamer's home) on any female twitch streamer who wouldn't chat with him / pretend to be his friend. Law enforcement has been mostly toothless, although in this case, a sympathetic local officer committed hundreds of work hours catching the guy and getting him prosecuted. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/magazine/the-serial-swatter.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/magazine/the-serial-swatt...
sillysaurus3 9y ago
exploited They're not being exploited, nor are they exploiting themselves. No more than DrDisrespect is exploiting the system by dressing up like this: http://wikinetworth.com/uploads/Dr%20Disrespect.jpg http://wikinetworth.com/uploads/Dr%20Disrespect.jpg Or Captain Disillusion is exploiting the system by dressing like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Melikdjanian.JPG/1200px-Melikdjanian.JPG https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Me... Everyone has a gimmick for attention, and being hot is just one tactic. And as someone who actively watches Twitch, it doesn't seem to last. You need something more than to be good looking. I was pretty surprised to find that a girl was a legit bounty hunter. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/201032300 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/201032300 It's counter to what you'd think of when you think "bounty hunter." I thought it was badass. I don't think I tuned in because I was exploiting her.
- falcolas 9y ago
  Just one, very lucrative, tactic. For example, one woman was recently banned for 24 hours for masturbating on camera (no skin, just highly suggestive movements and sounds). Someone who ranted about this kind of behavior on camera was banned for 72 hours. The rules are, to the casual observer, not evenly applied. It's also hard not to see, when browsing through channels, that the average successful streamer is an attractive women displaying cleavage via a webcam. Exploitation? Perhaps not. Regardless, their success depends heavily on implicit sexuality.
  - sillysaurus3 9y ago
    Isn't that conceding the point? She got banned. It's good to point out uneven moderation, but it's important to back those accusations with sources. I doubt that 72 hour ban is so clear cut.
    - falcolas 9y ago
      Both of these "accusations" were well documented (and both occurred within the last couple of weeks) on Reddit - a resource I (thankfully) don't have access to at work.

cavanasm 9y ago

There's also the problem where girls are heavily targeted for harassment still in the streaming community. I'm under the impression it's slowly improving, but there was a well known twitch user who was a serial SWATer (calling the police and telling them a multiple homicide is occurring / hostages have been taken so that a SWAT team shows up to the streamer's home) on any female twitch streamer who wouldn't chat with him / pretend to be his friend. Law enforcement has been mostly toothless, although in this case, a sympathetic local officer committed hundreds of work hours catching the guy and getting him prosecuted. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/magazine/the-serial-swatter.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/magazine/the-serial-swatt...

sillysaurus3 9y ago

exploited They're not being exploited, nor are they exploiting themselves. No more than DrDisrespect is exploiting the system by dressing up like this: http://wikinetworth.com/uploads/Dr%20Disrespect.jpg http://wikinetworth.com/uploads/Dr%20Disrespect.jpg Or Captain Disillusion is exploiting the system by dressing like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Melikdjanian.JPG/1200px-Melikdjanian.JPG https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Me... Everyone has a gimmick for attention, and being hot is just one tactic. And as someone who actively watches Twitch, it doesn't seem to last. You need something more than to be good looking. I was pretty surprised to find that a girl was a legit bounty hunter. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/201032300 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/201032300 It's counter to what you'd think of when you think "bounty hunter." I thought it was badass. I don't think I tuned in because I was exploiting her.

falcolas 9y ago
Just one, very lucrative, tactic. For example, one woman was recently banned for 24 hours for masturbating on camera (no skin, just highly suggestive movements and sounds). Someone who ranted about this kind of behavior on camera was banned for 72 hours. The rules are, to the casual observer, not evenly applied. It's also hard not to see, when browsing through channels, that the average successful streamer is an attractive women displaying cleavage via a webcam. Exploitation? Perhaps not. Regardless, their success depends heavily on implicit sexuality.
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  Isn't that conceding the point? She got banned. It's good to point out uneven moderation, but it's important to back those accusations with sources. I doubt that 72 hour ban is so clear cut.
  - falcolas 9y ago
    Both of these "accusations" were well documented (and both occurred within the last couple of weeks) on Reddit - a resource I (thankfully) don't have access to at work.