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Is there a good Vimperator replacement for the new webextension addon system?

Vinnl 9y ago
Depends on your needs. If it's mostly the shortcuts, Vimium works pretty well (at least for me). If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks.
- Karunamon 9y ago
  Vent mode on: That is pathetic. More paternalistic nannying of the user, making their life actively worse in favor of closing off a very limited security hole. If that’s the mindset, wouldn’t it be even safer to not have a browser at all?
  - Vinnl 9y ago
    Well, yes, but people are going to have browsers. This does make it easier for me to install Firefox for my mom and not have her call me about "not being able to visit websites anymore" and me having to figure out something removed her address bar or something. I mean, obviously there's pros and cons, but it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
- aquova 9y ago
  Has Vimium been updated to work under the new extension system?
  - Vinnl 9y ago
    Vimium wasn't even available for Firefox before (it was a Chrome extension), but it is now. VimFx hasn't, but Vimium has replaced it for me.
- zeveb 9y ago
  > If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks. That's total BS. It's my software running on my computer. I get to decide what I consider a security risk, not Mozilla.
  - Karunamon 9y ago
    This "user is an idiot" mentality permeates their development culture. As another example, Mozilla would rather you don't get to access a site at all if it's misconfigured a certain way, rather than putting in any kind of override. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435013 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435013 (Ten years old, fixes proposed, questions unanswered. Note the status.) If I sound upset, it's because this is personally offensive (not to mention infuriating) to me, and many good-faith questions have gone ignored.
  - Vinnl 9y ago
    Yes, but at the same time, I'm installing software on my mom's computer, and unfortunately, she's not a good judge of what is a security risk. I'd trust Mozilla with that more. As I said elsewhere, it is frustrating as well. But it's not like there aren't upsides to it as well, that just might not apply to us.
alvarosevilla95 9y ago
You could try the ff port of vimium, but it's not vimperator.
farresito 9y ago
There's been this new one, but I have used it very little. https://github.com/ueokande/vim-vixen https://github.com/ueokande/vim-vixen
- majewsky 9y ago
  Uh, that one looks nice. It's the first Vimperator-like WebExtension that I've seen that has ex-commands.
buovjaga 9y ago
Some new stuff is needed, see the last comments in this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215061 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215061 "Better keyboard shortcut support"
fmoralesc 9y ago
I am using saka key, it works pretty well for basic stuff.

Depends on your needs. If it's mostly the shortcuts, Vimium works pretty well (at least for me). If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks.

Karunamon 9y ago
Vent mode on: That is pathetic. More paternalistic nannying of the user, making their life actively worse in favor of closing off a very limited security hole. If that’s the mindset, wouldn’t it be even safer to not have a browser at all?
- Vinnl 9y ago
  Well, yes, but people are going to have browsers. This does make it easier for me to install Firefox for my mom and not have her call me about "not being able to visit websites anymore" and me having to figure out something removed her address bar or something. I mean, obviously there's pros and cons, but it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
aquova 9y ago
Has Vimium been updated to work under the new extension system?
- Vinnl 9y ago
  Vimium wasn't even available for Firefox before (it was a Chrome extension), but it is now. VimFx hasn't, but Vimium has replaced it for me.
zeveb 9y ago
> If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks. That's total BS. It's my software running on my computer. I get to decide what I consider a security risk, not Mozilla.
- Karunamon 9y ago
  This "user is an idiot" mentality permeates their development culture. As another example, Mozilla would rather you don't get to access a site at all if it's misconfigured a certain way, rather than putting in any kind of override. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435013 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435013 (Ten years old, fixes proposed, questions unanswered. Note the status.) If I sound upset, it's because this is personally offensive (not to mention infuriating) to me, and many good-faith questions have gone ignored.
- Vinnl 9y ago
  Yes, but at the same time, I'm installing software on my mom's computer, and unfortunately, she's not a good judge of what is a security risk. I'd trust Mozilla with that more. As I said elsewhere, it is frustrating as well. But it's not like there aren't upsides to it as well, that just might not apply to us.

alvarosevilla95 9y ago

You could try the ff port of vimium, but it's not vimperator.

farresito 9y ago

There's been this new one, but I have used it very little. https://github.com/ueokande/vim-vixen https://github.com/ueokande/vim-vixen

majewsky 9y ago
Uh, that one looks nice. It's the first Vimperator-like WebExtension that I've seen that has ex-commands.

buovjaga 9y ago

Some new stuff is needed, see the last comments in this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215061 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215061 "Better keyboard shortcut support"

fmoralesc 9y ago

I am using saka key, it works pretty well for basic stuff.