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I'm skeptical about the accuracy of applications like this running on Apple Watch. I bought the Apple Watch Series 3 precisely because of articles like this.

I'm skeptical about the accuracy of applications like this running on Apple Watch. I bought the Apple Watch Series 3 precisely because of articles like this. I now routinely get messages about how I've achieved my standing goal - while lying in bed watching TV or working on my laptop. If it can't accurately tell whether you're lying down or standing, it is unimaginable to me that it could be remotely accurate in detecting far more complex conditions.

doikor 9y ago
> I now routinely get messages about how I've achieved my standing goal - while lying in bed watching TV or working on my laptop. I routinely get messages about having to stand up while standing up on my standing desk at work. (Series 2 here)
- knolan 9y ago
  That’s supposedly expected behaviour. When I’m standing at my rig in the lab it pings me to stand, just like when I sit at my desk. This actually means get up and/or walk about — which usually works to fill that segment of the ring. But I also get false stands when sitting too. I’ve a series 0 however with the lesser sensor heart rate sensor so I don’t get any of these new cardio features.
- megablast 9y ago
  You are supposed to go for a walk, which is a good thing.
- 013a 9y ago
  Apple calling it a "standing goal" is a misnomer. Its more of a walking goal. I'm pretty confident that they're actually looking for 1 minute of consistent steps every hour.
  - dkonofalski 9y ago
    It doesn't have to be walking. It needs to be one minute of movement in a standing position. You can do jumping jacks or walk in place and it counts.
- gxs 9y ago
  That's right - the notification itself tells you to get up and walk around for a minute.
dirtyaura 9y ago
It is more like a copy-text / UI design issue. The point is to move around regularly to improve your health.
ArnoVanLumig 9y ago
You get the message that you achieved your standing goal right after the hour in which you achieved it. So it's entirely possible that you stood at 22:10, went to bed at 22:30, and get the achievement message at 23:00.
- downandout 9y ago
  That's certainly possible, though I have noticed more quirky behavior than just this - the stand goal was just the most amusing one to me and that is why I posted that particular one here. I sometimes meet the exercise goal on a very sedentary day, while I don't meet it when I vigorously exercise, etc. I have a two story house and I climb and descend the steps probably 15+ times per day, yet for the current week, it shows that I have climbed 4 flights of steps. Then other days it seems like it's right on the mark. It just seems to be all over the place.
  - sdenton4 9y ago
    As the old joke goes, How do you measure altitude with a barometer? A: Drop it and measure how long it takes to hit the ground.
  - RBerenguel 9y ago
    When I work from home I have a standing desk, and it looks like the watch does not pick me as standing, so I almost never reach the standing goal there
    - bamboozled 9y ago
      How would it actually know if you're standing, especially if you're hands are on a desk? Heart rate, blood pressure?
      - jads 9y ago
        Most likely that the absence of movement data is perceived as sitting/standing. Since the stand goal requires standing and moving for at least one minute (the purpose of the stand goal is more to get you moving for at least a minute rather than just stand up - just standing up doesn't count), if you haven't moved for a while (50 minutes in an hour) then it gives you a nudge to do so.
Nuance 9y ago
This has never happened to me with the Stand goal, but it sometimes does with the Move goal / calorie count.
tbassetto 9y ago
After 1 year with the Series 2, I never had an issue with he watch not understanding properly if I was active or not, standing or not. I did calibrate it on the first day though: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204516 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204516 and http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/05/12/how-to-calibrate-apple-wathow-to-calibrate-apple-watch-workout-activity/ http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/05/12/how-to-calibrate-app....
darkmagnus 9y ago
I have completed the calorie/move daily goal message while eating a donut. That made me chuckle.

doikor 9y ago

> I now routinely get messages about how I've achieved my standing goal - while lying in bed watching TV or working on my laptop. I routinely get messages about having to stand up while standing up on my standing desk at work. (Series 2 here)

knolan 9y ago
That’s supposedly expected behaviour. When I’m standing at my rig in the lab it pings me to stand, just like when I sit at my desk. This actually means get up and/or walk about — which usually works to fill that segment of the ring. But I also get false stands when sitting too. I’ve a series 0 however with the lesser sensor heart rate sensor so I don’t get any of these new cardio features.
megablast 9y ago
You are supposed to go for a walk, which is a good thing.
013a 9y ago
Apple calling it a "standing goal" is a misnomer. Its more of a walking goal. I'm pretty confident that they're actually looking for 1 minute of consistent steps every hour.
- dkonofalski 9y ago
  It doesn't have to be walking. It needs to be one minute of movement in a standing position. You can do jumping jacks or walk in place and it counts.
gxs 9y ago
That's right - the notification itself tells you to get up and walk around for a minute.

dirtyaura 9y ago

It is more like a copy-text / UI design issue. The point is to move around regularly to improve your health.

ArnoVanLumig 9y ago

You get the message that you achieved your standing goal right after the hour in which you achieved it. So it's entirely possible that you stood at 22:10, went to bed at 22:30, and get the achievement message at 23:00.

downandout 9y ago
That's certainly possible, though I have noticed more quirky behavior than just this - the stand goal was just the most amusing one to me and that is why I posted that particular one here. I sometimes meet the exercise goal on a very sedentary day, while I don't meet it when I vigorously exercise, etc. I have a two story house and I climb and descend the steps probably 15+ times per day, yet for the current week, it shows that I have climbed 4 flights of steps. Then other days it seems like it's right on the mark. It just seems to be all over the place.
- sdenton4 9y ago
  As the old joke goes, How do you measure altitude with a barometer? A: Drop it and measure how long it takes to hit the ground.
- RBerenguel 9y ago
  When I work from home I have a standing desk, and it looks like the watch does not pick me as standing, so I almost never reach the standing goal there
  - bamboozled 9y ago
    How would it actually know if you're standing, especially if you're hands are on a desk? Heart rate, blood pressure?
    - jads 9y ago
      Most likely that the absence of movement data is perceived as sitting/standing. Since the stand goal requires standing and moving for at least one minute (the purpose of the stand goal is more to get you moving for at least a minute rather than just stand up - just standing up doesn't count), if you haven't moved for a while (50 minutes in an hour) then it gives you a nudge to do so.

Nuance 9y ago

This has never happened to me with the Stand goal, but it sometimes does with the Move goal / calorie count.

tbassetto 9y ago

After 1 year with the Series 2, I never had an issue with he watch not understanding properly if I was active or not, standing or not. I did calibrate it on the first day though: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204516 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204516 and http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/05/12/how-to-calibrate-apple-wathow-to-calibrate-apple-watch-workout-activity/ http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/05/12/how-to-calibrate-app....

darkmagnus 9y ago

I have completed the calorie/move daily goal message while eating a donut. That made me chuckle.