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The amount of hysteria on display by men in this article and elsewhere is ridiculous. What happened to the skeptical "treat each person as an individual" attitu
by jacalata 9y ago
The amount of hysteria on display by men in this article and elsewhere is ridiculous. What happened to the skeptical "treat each person as an individual" attitude that created "Not All Men"?
- mistermann 9y agoRidiculous until you wake up one day and discover you no longer have a career.
- jacalata 9y agoThe occasional occurrence of an unlikely event does not make it reasonable to arrange your life around avoiding it. See: kidnapping by a stranger, plane crashes, suddenly having a photo of yourself go viral on the internet.
- mistermann 9y ago> occasional occurrence My reading of the newspaper suggests otherwise.
- jacalata 9y agoYour newspaper is reporting many instances of men with their career ruined by a false accusation? Those stories don't seem to make it to the New York Times, perhaps you should diversify your sources.
- mirimir 9y agoAre you saying "hysteria" ironically? But seriously, things are getting hugely chaotic. The only safe bet is keeping sexuality totally out of the workplace. But that doesn't mean isolation. As you say, you treat everyone the same. Because you really have no clue about their sexual orientation or status, issues, vulnerability, and so on.
- jacalata 9y agoYes, I couldn't resist.
- tabeth 9y agoWhy wouldn't you treat everyone the same?
- flukus 9y agoBecause half the population (or at least a considerable portion of that half) get's offended if I treat them the same as I would men.
- mirimir 9y agoFor sure. My wife swears like a sailor now, but she still gets offended sometimes by my repertoire ;) And we've been married for decades. But there's a certain blend of formality and good cheer that's part of professional behavior. Edit: My point is that I'd never talk that way in a professional context. Or even on HN. Edit: Also that my wife has picked up bad habits from me.
- jacalata 9y agoI am skeptical that there is anything you could do that would never offend any men but would offend a significant percentage of women. Even more skeptical if we're restricting the scene to professional interactions.
- flukus 9y agoI didn't say it would never offend men, but take a dirty joke as an example, it might offend men, but I'm drastically less likely to be written up by HR if a man is offended. Another one is the level of profanity that the different sexes are comfortable with. Another one would be making fun of someone's clothing, perfectly acceptable amongst friends. > Even more skeptical if we're restricting the scene to professional interactions. Not everything in the workplace is a professional interaction, or at least it never used to be. I don't know what it's supposed to be now, you have corporate wanting to do team building exercises and everyone to be one big family, we're still supposed to sign birthday cards and that sort of rubbish, yet you can't talk to people as you would friends and family.