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I don't think they're trying to suggest using rust, just curious why Cloudflare chose a language with a GC for workloads that apparently do not play well with G

I don't think they're trying to suggest using rust, just curious why Cloudflare chose a language with a GC for workloads that apparently do not play well with GC. "We already used Go" is a totally valid reason. "It's rare (or as you say potentially never an issue) that we actually need to avoid GC" is another.

khc 9y ago
the context of the benchmark is https://blog.cloudflare.com/arm-takes-wing/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/arm-takes-wing/ (Cloudflare engineer but I have nothing to do with the recent blog posts)
acdha 9y ago
“why is Rust not chosen as main language” seemed like an unnecessarily accusatory way to express that idea, especially given that language choices are usually driven by a number of factors rather than a single benchmark. I've seen a lot of advocacy over the years like that which has seemed to inspire more backlash than adoption. I generally prefer something constructive in the tradition of showing a better way to do something — i.e. in this case, perhaps show a Rust crypto library which delivers better performance so people could judge whether that kind of thing is enough of a draw to be worth migrating or, in the case of Rust, taking advantage of its embedding characteristics.
- tuyguntn 9y ago
  First of all, I am not advocating using Rust, I am asking why they didn't choose language without GC and good performance for given use case. “why is Rust not chosen as main language” seemed like an unnecessarily accusatory way to express that idea, especially given that language choices are usually driven by a number of factors rather than a single benchmark. do not cut the context, I said "why is Rust not chosen as main language ---> for such use cases? <---". By use case I meant writing performant code without GC

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I don't think they're trying to suggest using rust, just curious why Cloudflare chose a language with a GC for workloads that apparently do not play well with G

by staticassertion 9y ago

khc 9y ago
the context of the benchmark is https://blog.cloudflare.com/arm-takes-wing/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/arm-takes-wing/ (Cloudflare engineer but I have nothing to do with the recent blog posts)
acdha 9y ago
“why is Rust not chosen as main language” seemed like an unnecessarily accusatory way to express that idea, especially given that language choices are usually driven by a number of factors rather than a single benchmark. I've seen a lot of advocacy over the years like that which has seemed to inspire more backlash than adoption. I generally prefer something constructive in the tradition of showing a better way to do something — i.e. in this case, perhaps show a Rust crypto library which delivers better performance so people could judge whether that kind of thing is enough of a draw to be worth migrating or, in the case of Rust, taking advantage of its embedding characteristics.
- tuyguntn 9y ago
  First of all, I am not advocating using Rust, I am asking why they didn't choose language without GC and good performance for given use case. “why is Rust not chosen as main language” seemed like an unnecessarily accusatory way to express that idea, especially given that language choices are usually driven by a number of factors rather than a single benchmark. do not cut the context, I said "why is Rust not chosen as main language ---> for such use cases? <---". By use case I meant writing performant code without GC