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Can anyone explain what this is about, for non-gamers like myself? Am I understanding it right, in that he paid $80 for a game in which he needs to pay even mor

by runeks 9y ago

Can anyone explain what this is about, for non-gamers like myself? Am I understanding it right, in that he paid $80 for a game in which he needs to pay even more to get access to the Darth Vader character? Is there a price list somewhere for what it costs to purchase various in-game things?

always_good 9y ago
I think people have an issue with the fact that you can skip the lootbox grind if you pay money. Else it would also be 'unfair' for a game to make you beat levels 1-99 before you can play that sweet level 100 boss battle. "I paid $40 for this game, I want to play level 100 without the grind" would be fairly weak criticism. This issue is just a stone's throw from reeking of the hot air of entitlement. Mixed in with the anger that people can pay money to skip the grind are lamer abstract arguments like "a Star Wars game should let me play with the main characters on day one!"
minimaxir 9y ago
Good summary of the issue: https://reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/7cddyo/_/dpqoy26/?context=1 https://reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/7cddyo/_/dpqoy26/...
- chengiz 9y ago
  That has too much jargon to be a good summary to a non-gamer IMO. To wit- "While some games might offer loot boxes for cosmetic options, Battlefront II is using loot crates as their primary form of progression through the multiplayer content, via Star Cards."
seren 9y ago
Most game now have "micro transactions". I have not followed closely but I guess that your start the game without all the characters unlocked, so you need to play X hours of time to unlock that character, or buy it in addition to the base game to unlock it immediately. Which might be a bit steep after you've just spent $80. edit: so after reading minimaxir links it seems you can not pay to unlock a new character, but since you have to effectively chose spending your credits (i.e time spent playing) either on improvement like weapons or new characters, it greatly incentivizes you buy in-game currency.

by runeks 9y ago

always_good 9y ago

I think people have an issue with the fact that you can skip the lootbox grind if you pay money. Else it would also be 'unfair' for a game to make you beat levels 1-99 before you can play that sweet level 100 boss battle. "I paid $40 for this game, I want to play level 100 without the grind" would be fairly weak criticism. This issue is just a stone's throw from reeking of the hot air of entitlement. Mixed in with the anger that people can pay money to skip the grind are lamer abstract arguments like "a Star Wars game should let me play with the main characters on day one!"

minimaxir 9y ago

Good summary of the issue: https://reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/7cddyo/_/dpqoy26/?context=1 https://reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/7cddyo/_/dpqoy26/...

chengiz 9y ago
That has too much jargon to be a good summary to a non-gamer IMO. To wit- "While some games might offer loot boxes for cosmetic options, Battlefront II is using loot crates as their primary form of progression through the multiplayer content, via Star Cards."

seren 9y ago

Most game now have "micro transactions". I have not followed closely but I guess that your start the game without all the characters unlocked, so you need to play X hours of time to unlock that character, or buy it in addition to the base game to unlock it immediately. Which might be a bit steep after you've just spent $80. edit: so after reading minimaxir links it seems you can not pay to unlock a new character, but since you have to effectively chose spending your credits (i.e time spent playing) either on improvement like weapons or new characters, it greatly incentivizes you buy in-game currency.