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Depends a bit: if devs switch back I'd say definitely. If devs are ready to repeat the IE 6 story, this time with Chrome. Getting companies to do cross browse

Depends a bit: if devs switch back I'd say definitely. If devs are ready to repeat the IE 6 story, this time with Chrome. Getting companies to do cross browser testing seems hard even if it it should be simpler than ever before.. :-/

fabrice_d 9y ago
Until they figure out a way to address their irrelevance on Mobile, devs will never fully switch since they have to do testing on mobile devices. It is really sad that Gecko is becoming so good, but is mainly used to power a product in what is becoming a niche market (yes, desktop is becoming a niche in terms of users relative to mobile).
- eitland 9y ago
  I posting from Firefox monile now. It's my main browser. If I use Chrome only it is for my sockpuppet accounts. I far prefer FF even on mobile.
  - mattmanser 9y ago
    I found it ate all my memory and crashed frequent. Nexus 5X.
    - CaptSpify 9y ago
      One of the things I found was that I had to use their Beta. Their main build wouldn't even start for me.
  - fabrice_d 9y ago
    Sure, I'm not saying that no one uses Firefox on Android. But their mobile marketshare is totally irrelevant compared to Chrome, UCBrowser or the Samsung browser (even this one alone has about as many users as Fx Desktop).
- hsivonen 9y ago
  The amount of desktop usage hasn't gone down with mobile usage going up. Desktop isn't niche. That said, more market share for Fennec would be nice. (This comment written in Fennec.)
  - fabrice_d 9y ago
    Desktop is less and less relevant compared to Mobile so it will get less and less attention from content producers. I don't mind that some people want to keep focusing on desktop products, they have their use. But I think it's not what Mozilla should focus on if they want to "promote internet for everyone".
zamalek 9y ago
I switched to Quantum as my daily driver a few weeks ago, I love it as a user. It has made me hate the Chrome dev tools with white hot passion. Firebug might be gone, but the new dev tools are a masterpiece of usability. I emphatically recommend developer edition as a development browser.
- Manishearth 9y ago
  Yeah, the new devtools are pretty nice! The revamp is missing some bits (e.g. the pretty printer is missing for files without a sourcemap) but I suspect that will trickle through slowly. I've noticed that a lot of folks don't realize there are a bunch more devtools tabs that you can enable hidden in the settings (including a shader editor, a canvas debugger, and a DOM inspector). They're less useful than the main four (inspector/console/debugger/network) but are pretty neat and help a lot.
- DiThi 9y ago
  Indeed, I didn't think it could surpass Chrome's dev tools quality so quickly.

fabrice_d 9y ago

Until they figure out a way to address their irrelevance on Mobile, devs will never fully switch since they have to do testing on mobile devices. It is really sad that Gecko is becoming so good, but is mainly used to power a product in what is becoming a niche market (yes, desktop is becoming a niche in terms of users relative to mobile).

eitland 9y ago
I posting from Firefox monile now. It's my main browser. If I use Chrome only it is for my sockpuppet accounts. I far prefer FF even on mobile.
- mattmanser 9y ago
  I found it ate all my memory and crashed frequent. Nexus 5X.
  - CaptSpify 9y ago
    One of the things I found was that I had to use their Beta. Their main build wouldn't even start for me.
- fabrice_d 9y ago
  Sure, I'm not saying that no one uses Firefox on Android. But their mobile marketshare is totally irrelevant compared to Chrome, UCBrowser or the Samsung browser (even this one alone has about as many users as Fx Desktop).
hsivonen 9y ago
The amount of desktop usage hasn't gone down with mobile usage going up. Desktop isn't niche. That said, more market share for Fennec would be nice. (This comment written in Fennec.)
- fabrice_d 9y ago
  Desktop is less and less relevant compared to Mobile so it will get less and less attention from content producers. I don't mind that some people want to keep focusing on desktop products, they have their use. But I think it's not what Mozilla should focus on if they want to "promote internet for everyone".

zamalek 9y ago

I switched to Quantum as my daily driver a few weeks ago, I love it as a user. It has made me hate the Chrome dev tools with white hot passion. Firebug might be gone, but the new dev tools are a masterpiece of usability. I emphatically recommend developer edition as a development browser.

Manishearth 9y ago
Yeah, the new devtools are pretty nice! The revamp is missing some bits (e.g. the pretty printer is missing for files without a sourcemap) but I suspect that will trickle through slowly. I've noticed that a lot of folks don't realize there are a bunch more devtools tabs that you can enable hidden in the settings (including a shader editor, a canvas debugger, and a DOM inspector). They're less useful than the main four (inspector/console/debugger/network) but are pretty neat and help a lot.
DiThi 9y ago
Indeed, I didn't think it could surpass Chrome's dev tools quality so quickly.