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It'd be great to be able to pull glucose, hydration and more out of urine samples real time, so long as we stay away from say live telemetry to insurers or some

It'd be great to be able to pull glucose, hydration and more out of urine samples real time, so long as we stay away from say live telemetry to insurers or something like SmartPipe[1] it'd be enormously beneficial. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ

bflesch 9y ago
In health this would be massively beneficial. Imagine a digital hospital where you monitor excrements for every patient during their stay. When my father was in the stroke unit recently they had him drink a shitload of water and they monitored water intake by making him write down how much he drank and when. Stupid thing is I need a 100M exit first to sponsor this kind of thing.
- zafka 9y ago
  I do not think you need an exit to sponsor this. How about starting a web site that outlines all your ideas? Start building interest in the idea. Invite discussion.....
- jonwachob91 9y ago
  I'm obviously not familiar with your dad's specifics, BUT hospitals will sometimes require tracking of fluid intake to help track kidney function post stroke. It's not the most common thing, so a physician would have needed supporting evidence to indicate the potential of kidney failure. Just something to keep in mind :)
koolba 9y ago
> ... so long as we stay away from say live telemetry to insurers ... Consumers have demonstrated that they're willing to save $5-20 a month in exchange for sending gym checkins[1], daily steps counts, or digital monitoring of their driving habits[2] uploaded to their insurers. I don't think it'll ever be mandatory but I can see a day where the "discount" for agreeing to continuous monitoring and data upload is so great that it'd be cost prohibitive for the average consumer to not be a part of it. On the personal health front I think the biggest stopper is the cost of the data collection devices. That's what's relegated it to higher end targets like diabetic monitors (for now). [1]: https://www.bluecrossmn.com/healthy/public/personal/home/livehealthy/lh-health-programs-discounts/lh-fitness-discounts-public https://www.bluecrossmn.com/healthy/public/personal/home/liv... [2]: https://www.progressive.com/auto/discounts/snapshot/#2 https://www.progressive.com/auto/discounts/snapshot/#2
- beamer1979 9y ago
  "I don't think it'll ever be mandatory but I can see a day where the "discount" for agreeing to continuous monitoring and data upload is so great that it'd be cost prohibitive for the average consumer to not be a part of it." I would be looking to my government to ensure such unwanted and unwelcomed intrusions into an individual's private life by private companies aren't required to achieve that. Whether that be through the nationalisation of such services or some other method. Anything else is an affront to the implied social contract which allows such private companies to profit from their activities in society.
  - goialoq 9y ago
    You could choose not to buy health insurance. Why should an insure be forced to subsidize your lifestyle choices?

bflesch 9y ago

In health this would be massively beneficial. Imagine a digital hospital where you monitor excrements for every patient during their stay. When my father was in the stroke unit recently they had him drink a shitload of water and they monitored water intake by making him write down how much he drank and when. Stupid thing is I need a 100M exit first to sponsor this kind of thing.

zafka 9y ago
I do not think you need an exit to sponsor this. How about starting a web site that outlines all your ideas? Start building interest in the idea. Invite discussion.....
jonwachob91 9y ago
I'm obviously not familiar with your dad's specifics, BUT hospitals will sometimes require tracking of fluid intake to help track kidney function post stroke. It's not the most common thing, so a physician would have needed supporting evidence to indicate the potential of kidney failure. Just something to keep in mind :)

koolba 9y ago

> ... so long as we stay away from say live telemetry to insurers ... Consumers have demonstrated that they're willing to save $5-20 a month in exchange for sending gym checkins[1], daily steps counts, or digital monitoring of their driving habits[2] uploaded to their insurers. I don't think it'll ever be mandatory but I can see a day where the "discount" for agreeing to continuous monitoring and data upload is so great that it'd be cost prohibitive for the average consumer to not be a part of it. On the personal health front I think the biggest stopper is the cost of the data collection devices. That's what's relegated it to higher end targets like diabetic monitors (for now). [1]: https://www.bluecrossmn.com/healthy/public/personal/home/livehealthy/lh-health-programs-discounts/lh-fitness-discounts-public https://www.bluecrossmn.com/healthy/public/personal/home/liv... [2]: https://www.progressive.com/auto/discounts/snapshot/#2 https://www.progressive.com/auto/discounts/snapshot/#2

beamer1979 9y ago
"I don't think it'll ever be mandatory but I can see a day where the "discount" for agreeing to continuous monitoring and data upload is so great that it'd be cost prohibitive for the average consumer to not be a part of it." I would be looking to my government to ensure such unwanted and unwelcomed intrusions into an individual's private life by private companies aren't required to achieve that. Whether that be through the nationalisation of such services or some other method. Anything else is an affront to the implied social contract which allows such private companies to profit from their activities in society.
- goialoq 9y ago
  You could choose not to buy health insurance. Why should an insure be forced to subsidize your lifestyle choices?