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Most of the action on this is in something the article only barely mentions: safety. First of all there's the evacuation angle. Regulations require the ability
by ubernostrum 9y ago
Most of the action on this is in something the article only barely mentions: safety.
First of all there's the evacuation angle. Regulations require the ability to evacuate the plane within 90 seconds, using only half of the exits. And by "evacuate" they don't mean people lined up at the door waiting to get off -- they mean the order to evacuate is given, and then 90 seconds later there is nobody left inside the plane.
There's a strong argument to be made that this is no longer physically possible with high-density seat configurations. The tests for this are already unrealistic (they involve people who are told in advance what's going to happen, who know they aren't in danger, who don't face any issues such as smoke to confuse them, and who have no particular attachment to each other or to any baggage in the cabin), and as those tests have remained static their detachment from reality has grown.
The second issue is survivability in an economy-class seat. This diagram is instructive:
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That's used by airlines... for flight crew seats. It lays out an area to be kept free of obstructions, as anything in that area could cause devastating head or neck injuries in an accident (due to the seat's occupant being jerked suddenly and their head sweeping through that area). The diagram notes the area is 35 inches deep, but it's easy to miss an important point: the 35 inches is measured from the front of the seat cushion to the rear edge of any object in front of the seat. For passengers, airlines measure pitch from the rear edge of one seat to the rear edge of the next, meaning a 30-inch pitch (typical for US economy class) is not 5 inches (35 - 30) short of the safety margin, it's more like 8 or even 10 inches short depending on the depth of the seat cushions and frame.
There are court cases going right now over whether the FAA is inappropriately ignoring safety concerns. A victory in court would, as a side effect, probably make flying more comfortable but also slightly more expensive.
- twobyfour 9y agoYup, that's pretty scary. I'm pretty short (under 5'6") and on a recent flight I was unable to pick up an item I'd dropped on the floor quite simply because the seat in front of me was too close to permit leaning down far enough even before the person in front of me reclined. Also, I seem to remember that decades ago, when you flew, the instructions used to be that if the aircraft was expected to crash you were supposed to bend over and put your head between your knees for protection during the crash. Did they give that up because it was ineffective advice or because seat pitch no longer permits it?
- sleavey 9y agoWhile I'm with you on safety concerns, does that rule still apply to forward facing seats? Most crashes happen when the aircraft is flying forward - so on forward facing seats the thing your head will eventually hit if it whips back is the headrest. I guess because cabin crew seats (almost always?) face backwards, this is more of a concern. (Of course, some airlines like BA offer rear facing beds in business class, but these provide much more space than the minimum clearance requirement).
- ubernostrum 9y agoThe direction you're facing doesn't matter. What matters is the arc your head would sweep through in the event of a sudden jerk bending you double (since presumably your seat belt will keep you in the seat), and that can happen with either direction. Also, crew seats don't always face backwards.