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My most recent flight was on a United 737-900 with 38 or 39 rows. The seat pitch can't have been more than 30 inches, and might have been 29. It was as crampe

by curtis 9y ago

My most recent flight was on a United 737-900 with 38 or 39 rows. The seat pitch can't have been more than 30 inches, and might have been 29. It was as cramped as I have ever seen on a 737. But the thing that really pissed me off was the incredibly cramped bathroom. This link (https://services.airbus.com/upgrade/cabin/layout-optimisation/smart-lav https://services.airbus.com/upgrade/cabin/layout-optimisatio...) is actually an Airbus design, but it is almost exactly what I remember on this 737. Not only was it cock-eyed (I don't know what to call it), it was incredibly narrow, even for a 737 bathroom.

pls2halp 9y ago
>Compared with the standard lavatories, Smart-Lav brings 5.5 additional inches for more seats and 10 additional inches for recline space. Yet they claim it "allows up to 6 additional seats in the cabin". Assuming they're in a row, I fail to see how you can fit a seat in 5.5 inches. >The interior of Smart-Lav has been designed to enhance the spaciousness and the hygiene perception by the passengers. It's blatantly focusing on perceptions over reality. I got sick in a plane with a similar layout(I think it was with Emirates) and I remember it being significantly more uncomfortable than any other plane I'd been on, and I think I managed to hit my head while throwing up.
- grenoire 9y ago
  Probably they take away seat space from others and put an extra row in the back (3 in 2 rows). Likely it gives just enough space to pass a threshold.
- nollbit 9y ago
  If you take an inch of pitch from many other rows + the 5,5 that allows you to fit an extra row or two. Compare Lufthansas seatmap for the A320 vs A320neo. The neo has the Smartlav and two additional rows of seats. http://magazin.lufthansa.com/content/uploads/2016/07/a320_sitzplan_168.jpg http://magazin.lufthansa.com/content/uploads/2016/07/a320_si... http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/pdf/08/media_1555228708.pdf http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/pdf/08/media_1555228708.p...
Joeri 9y ago
That design is going to dramatically reduce membership of the mile high club.
splonk 9y ago
I wouldn't necessarily take it as gospel, but seatguru says the seat pitch on those planes is 30-31 inches. United claims the same. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Boeing_737-900_F.php# https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Air... https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/737/900/default.aspx https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/air...
- curtis 9y ago
  My knees were touching the back of the seat in front of me. Regardless of the actual seat pitch, I don't think I could take it any smaller. But maybe I'm already out. My next flight is booked on JetBlue even though it probably cost me quite a bit more.
prostoalex 9y ago
Carriers who buy narrow-body aircraft like 737s generally buy them for medium-haul bread-and-butter flights, with bathroom design likely coming low on the features list. If Wikipedia is to be believed, Southwest and RyanAir are the owners of the largest fleet of 737s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_737_operators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_737_operators so they likely influenced the designs, everyone else just pretty much had to go along with what the big guys ordered.

by curtis 9y ago

pls2halp 9y ago

>Compared with the standard lavatories, Smart-Lav brings 5.5 additional inches for more seats and 10 additional inches for recline space. Yet they claim it "allows up to 6 additional seats in the cabin". Assuming they're in a row, I fail to see how you can fit a seat in 5.5 inches. >The interior of Smart-Lav has been designed to enhance the spaciousness and the hygiene perception by the passengers. It's blatantly focusing on perceptions over reality. I got sick in a plane with a similar layout(I think it was with Emirates) and I remember it being significantly more uncomfortable than any other plane I'd been on, and I think I managed to hit my head while throwing up.

grenoire 9y ago
Probably they take away seat space from others and put an extra row in the back (3 in 2 rows). Likely it gives just enough space to pass a threshold.
nollbit 9y ago
If you take an inch of pitch from many other rows + the 5,5 that allows you to fit an extra row or two. Compare Lufthansas seatmap for the A320 vs A320neo. The neo has the Smartlav and two additional rows of seats. http://magazin.lufthansa.com/content/uploads/2016/07/a320_sitzplan_168.jpg http://magazin.lufthansa.com/content/uploads/2016/07/a320_si... http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/pdf/08/media_1555228708.pdf http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/pdf/08/media_1555228708.p...

Joeri 9y ago

That design is going to dramatically reduce membership of the mile high club.

splonk 9y ago

I wouldn't necessarily take it as gospel, but seatguru says the seat pitch on those planes is 30-31 inches. United claims the same. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Boeing_737-900_F.php# https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Air... https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/737/900/default.aspx https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/air...

curtis 9y ago
My knees were touching the back of the seat in front of me. Regardless of the actual seat pitch, I don't think I could take it any smaller. But maybe I'm already out. My next flight is booked on JetBlue even though it probably cost me quite a bit more.

prostoalex 9y ago

Carriers who buy narrow-body aircraft like 737s generally buy them for medium-haul bread-and-butter flights, with bathroom design likely coming low on the features list. If Wikipedia is to be believed, Southwest and RyanAir are the owners of the largest fleet of 737s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_737_operators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_737_operators so they likely influenced the designs, everyone else just pretty much had to go along with what the big guys ordered.