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With luck, Trump, the tightening H-1B/GC situation and the recent wave of xenophobia worldwide will push some talented people who would've otherwise left to sta

With luck, Trump, the tightening H-1B/GC situation and the recent wave of xenophobia worldwide will push some talented people who would've otherwise left to stay in India. Modi has also pushed to make starting a business a quick process w.r.t paperwork.

PeachPlum 9y ago
Resisting mass immigration to leach from your welfare state is not xenophobic.
- throw3192312 9y ago
  Resisting immigration of a particular demographic, one that arguably contributes most to the coffers of the said welfare state, is well within epistemological domain of the word 'xenophobia'.
  - PeachPlum 9y ago
    you're talking about the US I'm responding to > the recent wave of xenophobia worldwide The costs of the refugee crisis The German government will have to spend 50 billion euros on refugees during this year and next, a new study estimates. In order to balance these costs, researchers urge financial restraint elsewhere. http://www.dw.com/en/the-costs-of-the-refugee-crisis/a-19016394 http://www.dw.com/en/the-costs-of-the-refugee-crisis/a-19016...
- zaptheimpaler 9y ago
  Sure, except immigrants under work visas are not entitled to any welfare such as unemployment/medical - in fact we lose our status as legal immigrants as soon as we become unemployed so we must leave the country. Keep the hate flowing though. I don't have any objections to a country looking out for its own interest, resisting illegal immigration or immigrants that otherwise cannot contribute much to the economy, but they are not the only ones the government is cracking down on.
  - PeachPlum 9y ago
    > the recent wave of xenophobia worldwide your welfare state is not the world model e.g. Germany Sees Welfare Benefit Costs More Than Double Asylum seekers received nearly $5.91 billion in welfare benefits in 2015 https://www.wsj.com/articles/germanys-welfare-bill-rises-169-as-refugee-numbers-grow-1473077920 https://www.wsj.com/articles/germanys-welfare-bill-rises-169... and your assessment of employment rates among legal immigrants in Europe is simply not borne out by the statistics https://www.economist.com/news/finance-economics/21709511-too-few-refugees-not-too-many-are-working-europe-refugees-sweden-are https://www.economist.com/news/finance-economics/21709511-to...
    - zaptheimpaler 9y ago
      If you read my comment, I was talking about restrictions on WORK visas in the US, not refugees in Europe.
- sctb 9y ago
  > Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Taniwha 9y ago
yes, most Americans don't realise just how many Indian people work building chips there - IIT and its ilk train more than 25% of the chip designers in the US (my rough guess from working in the industry) ... if Trump chases them all home and they go on to build great things, as I'm sure they will, Trump may be responsible for destroying the US semiconductor industry single handedly

PeachPlum 9y ago

Resisting mass immigration to leach from your welfare state is not xenophobic.

throw3192312 9y ago
Resisting immigration of a particular demographic, one that arguably contributes most to the coffers of the said welfare state, is well within epistemological domain of the word 'xenophobia'.
- PeachPlum 9y ago
  you're talking about the US I'm responding to > the recent wave of xenophobia worldwide The costs of the refugee crisis The German government will have to spend 50 billion euros on refugees during this year and next, a new study estimates. In order to balance these costs, researchers urge financial restraint elsewhere. http://www.dw.com/en/the-costs-of-the-refugee-crisis/a-19016394 http://www.dw.com/en/the-costs-of-the-refugee-crisis/a-19016...
zaptheimpaler 9y ago
Sure, except immigrants under work visas are not entitled to any welfare such as unemployment/medical - in fact we lose our status as legal immigrants as soon as we become unemployed so we must leave the country. Keep the hate flowing though. I don't have any objections to a country looking out for its own interest, resisting illegal immigration or immigrants that otherwise cannot contribute much to the economy, but they are not the only ones the government is cracking down on.
- PeachPlum 9y ago
  > the recent wave of xenophobia worldwide your welfare state is not the world model e.g. Germany Sees Welfare Benefit Costs More Than Double Asylum seekers received nearly $5.91 billion in welfare benefits in 2015 https://www.wsj.com/articles/germanys-welfare-bill-rises-169-as-refugee-numbers-grow-1473077920 https://www.wsj.com/articles/germanys-welfare-bill-rises-169... and your assessment of employment rates among legal immigrants in Europe is simply not borne out by the statistics https://www.economist.com/news/finance-economics/21709511-too-few-refugees-not-too-many-are-working-europe-refugees-sweden-are https://www.economist.com/news/finance-economics/21709511-to...
  - zaptheimpaler 9y ago
    If you read my comment, I was talking about restrictions on WORK visas in the US, not refugees in Europe.
sctb 9y ago
> Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Taniwha 9y ago

yes, most Americans don't realise just how many Indian people work building chips there - IIT and its ilk train more than 25% of the chip designers in the US (my rough guess from working in the industry) ... if Trump chases them all home and they go on to build great things, as I'm sure they will, Trump may be responsible for destroying the US semiconductor industry single handedly