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I run an lsat prep website. A cold 158 is a very high score. The median LSAT is 151. Most students can improve about 10 points with practice. Beyond that, impr
by graeme 9y ago
I run an lsat prep website. A cold 158 is a very high score. The median LSAT is 151. Most students can improve about 10 points with practice.
Beyond that, improvement gets dicier, as it depends on actually changing your patterns of thinking. The LSAT is a test of precision, and gets to a level most people are never called to think about when making everyday arguments.
It’s actually a very interesting test, many people here on hacker news might find it fun to try. You can print this free version: https://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/jd-docs/sampleptjune.pdf https://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/jd-docs/sampleptjun...
I strongly recommend doing it timed, as it is as much a test of your intuition with reasoning as anything else. It also uses subtle psychological biases to lead you astray. Each section is 35 minutes. If you only have time for one, try the logical reasoning.
Law school admissions is in flux right now, as there is a move to start using the GRE as an admissions test. At the highest level of schools, this will likely help get a few STEM graduates into law school. Mostly though, it’s seen as a move by schools to pad their enrolment, as law student numbers have declined in recent years. Skyrocketing tuition is the main cause.
The big open question is how the GRE and the LSAT will be compared in the rankings. My impression is that the GRE isn’t very important in grad admissions, so people don’t study for it. I suspect that motivated law applicants will be able to achieve a comparatively higher GRE percentile than LSAT percentile, as the GRE’s subject matter is more trivially learnable, and the motivated prelaw students will be ranked against the unmotivated GRE takers who are using it for grad school admissions.
- Naritai 9y agoYou mention skyrocketing tuition, but haven't mentioned the second major cause of declining admissions, which is that employment rate for new grads _still_ hasn't recovered from 2008-2009 declines[1]. [1]https://www.nalp.org/0917research https://www.nalp.org/0917research
- graeme 9y agoThanks. Yeah, that’s the other half. If jobs and salaries were up I’m sure more would take the debt. Right now you need a scholarship for most schools to be worth it.