No, I mean it literally isn't universally shameful. In that in most countries obeying an order to fire on civilians, or doing so because you believe your life i

No, I mean it literally isn't universally shameful. In that in most countries obeying an order to fire on civilians, or doing so because you believe your life is in danger, will not result in penalties. Because "it's what you do" or "us against them" from some perspectives. See the response to Kent State [1], in which all legal attempts to hold the guardsmen who opened fire responsible failed. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings#Legal_action https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings#Legal_act...