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"Renters should have no say in what people are allowed to build - only the landed gentry have that right!"
by jaibot 9y ago
"Renters should have no say in what people are allowed to build - only the landed gentry have that right!"
- dingo_bat 9y agoThe slogan is "Yes in my backyard." But the people saying it don't have a backyard. They should not be coercing people with backyards and imposing their will.
- twblalock 9y agoThat's an overly literal interpretation.
- raldi 9y agoAddressed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15683970 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15683970
- chiaro 9y agoIt's more conversationally natural for me to refer to the yard adjoining my property as 'my backyard' than my landlord to (who likely has a yard of his own for which that is more semantically assonant).
- dingo_bat 9y agoThat's technically wrong, the worst kind of wrong. If you rent a house, the backyard is owned by your landlord. Sure in casual conversation you will say "my backyard", but we're talking about ownership here.
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- chiaro 9y agoAnd we're talking about how a (loose) organisation is branded, not the legal implications. The "backyard" in question is already one metaphor deep, for crying out loud. This is like complaining that Amazon has little to do with the rainforest.
- conanbatt 9y agoI would say the coercion comes from people having the ability to say what happens outside of their backyard.
- Mindless2112 9y agoThat might have something to do with not being able to afford a backyard.
- dingo_bat 9y agoHow is that anybody else's problem?
- junkscience2017 9y agoThat's a feature, not a bug. High cost is an efficient barrier to growth that exceeds the carrying capacity of the region. California is suburban. Changing that will take decades. Cramming more people in to the Bay Area will not result in transit solutions springing up...these will take decades. Don't forget that the State continues to have long term systemic issues providing water to current residents. California is at 40 million now and I have no desire to see it reach 50 million. The Governor needs to start thinking about how many people we want here.
- capitalsigma 9y agoIf I live in SF, I have the right to vote in local elections, and I have the right to vote for people who represent my interests, regardless of whether I rent or own. If you're hoping for the ballot box to be restricted to homeowners, you're about 300 years too late.
- TulliusCicero 9y agoJesus Christ, it's not literally referring to the backyard attached to your particular house. I can't believe I have to explain this, but "backyard" in this context means neighborhood.
- cobookman 9y agoThe landed gentry have more to loose with bad housing policy. Where as renters can up and leave without issue. Get rid of prop 13 if you want home owners to care about rising housing costs.
- kelnos 9y agoMany of the renters would love to be homeowners, but can't afford it due to already-abysmal housing policy.
- whyenot 9y agowho are you quoting?