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> Federal pay sucks by design. If you want to work for .gov, you want state/local government State and local government employees are paid well? Where? Which o

> Federal pay sucks by design. If you want to work for .gov, you want state/local government State and local government employees are paid well? Where? Which ones?

Spooky23 9y ago
Many state governments pay much better than the Federal government and offer better benefits, and don’t require that you live in the DC crazy corridor. Local governments depend on the locality — big counties and cities pay ok. It all depends on what is valuable to you.
- forapurpose 9y ago
  > Many state governments pay much better than the Federal government and offer better benefits Not to my knowledge. Which ones for what jobs, do you happen to know?
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fujiters 9y ago
Public school systems tend to pay well for people who majored in early elementary education, music, kinesiology, etc. But this isn't the same demographic that would work at NSA.
- heartbreak 9y ago
  My mom has a master's in education, and after 30 years across two public school systems, she's finally broken $40k salary. Where do you live that public school systems pay well?
  - grkvlt 9y ago
    Presumably England, where 'public' schools are what would be termed 'private' or fee paying schools in the USA ;)
  - fujiters 9y ago
    In Cincinnati, not a particularly HCOL place, with 30 years and a master's she would have made $77k. https://www.nctq.org/districtPolicy/contractDatabase/district.do?id=107 https://www.nctq.org/districtPolicy/contractDatabase/distric...
    - forapurpose 9y ago
      Is that really "paid well"? 30 years and a masters degree earns you $77K? Could you imagine that offer in SV?
      - fujiters 9y ago
        Cost of living is much higher in San Francisco/Sunnyvale vs Cincinnati. I'm saying $77K in an area where you could get a 3 bedroom/2 bath house for under $200K is pretty good, especially if you don't have the skills to compete in the tech realm, which is about the only way you're going to end up paid well in SV.

> Federal pay sucks by design. If you want to work for .gov, you want state/local government State and local government employees are paid well? Where? Which ones?

Spooky23 9y ago

Many state governments pay much better than the Federal government and offer better benefits, and don’t require that you live in the DC crazy corridor. Local governments depend on the locality — big counties and cities pay ok. It all depends on what is valuable to you.

forapurpose 9y ago
> Many state governments pay much better than the Federal government and offer better benefits Not to my knowledge. Which ones for what jobs, do you happen to know?

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fujiters 9y ago

Public school systems tend to pay well for people who majored in early elementary education, music, kinesiology, etc. But this isn't the same demographic that would work at NSA.

heartbreak 9y ago
My mom has a master's in education, and after 30 years across two public school systems, she's finally broken $40k salary. Where do you live that public school systems pay well?
- grkvlt 9y ago
  Presumably England, where 'public' schools are what would be termed 'private' or fee paying schools in the USA ;)
- fujiters 9y ago
  In Cincinnati, not a particularly HCOL place, with 30 years and a master's she would have made $77k. https://www.nctq.org/districtPolicy/contractDatabase/district.do?id=107 https://www.nctq.org/districtPolicy/contractDatabase/distric...
  - forapurpose 9y ago
    Is that really "paid well"? 30 years and a masters degree earns you $77K? Could you imagine that offer in SV?
    - fujiters 9y ago
      Cost of living is much higher in San Francisco/Sunnyvale vs Cincinnati. I'm saying $77K in an area where you could get a 3 bedroom/2 bath house for under $200K is pretty good, especially if you don't have the skills to compete in the tech realm, which is about the only way you're going to end up paid well in SV.