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One thing I haven't figured out is how to deal with such a person who shifts expectations, even with good documentation. 1) Have meeting where you establish th
by tibbon 9y ago
One thing I haven't figured out is how to deal with such a person who shifts expectations, even with good documentation.
1) Have meeting where you establish the walls should be painted this specific shade of blue.
2) Document this in an email summarizing the meeting and the todos
3) Start painting the walls blue, maybe even finish
4) Toxic Boss comes back and wonders why the walls aren't green. Apparently, they had been looking at the color swatches while sitting under a red tanning light, and expected for you to know what they meant.
5) Go back and paint the walls green.
6) The toxic boss now looks at them and wonders why they aren't red. And you need to paint the ceiling black, because they had a meeting with a potential client at a trade show, and black ceilings are the new hot thing. Clearly, you can fit all of this painting, and repainting, into the original timeline (despite your protestations), because the toxic boss told the client you'll be shipping it by date.
No amount of documentation works here. When you point out to the toxic boss your original agreement, they look puzzled at you, wondering why you aren't team player, and why you aren't listening to customer needs enough. There's another team at work who paints signs, and they are fine with daily changes.
You talk to the toxic boss about making a process for iterating on this and documenting expectations better, but then they say you're too rigid and process will slow things down- they are an idea person, and just like thinking about colors, not the details.
- madmork 9y agoThat's a great example. One solution here might be to find an intermediary who works well / gets along with the Toxic boss and involve them in process somehow. You might just go to them for advice and try to understand how they they work with the person and what process has worked well for them. Another one would be to try and meet with your Toxic boss outside the office in a more neutral setting where you can have an open and honest conversation about what's going on. What I've found is people behave and open up differently outside of an office setting. You could also discuss your problem with other folks who work for this person and see if they are coming up against the same problem. If they are, then there are clearer grounds for you all to bring the problem to someone else to try and present it objectively coming 360 review time.
- tomjen3 9y agoSounds like you need to go over the head of that boss, or find a place less toxic.
- tibbon 9y agoNo longer there thankfully. Toxic cultures often go straight to the top.