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The moral judgments are important on a societal level if we ever hope to address problems like suicide being one of the leading causes of death for westerners b

The moral judgments are important on a societal level if we ever hope to address problems like suicide being one of the leading causes of death for westerners between 25 and 44 years old.

WalterBright 9y ago
Mathematically, something has to be the leading cause of death ages 25..44. What should it be? A leading cause may emerge simply because other leading causes were fixed, not because things are getting worse.
- mathgeek 9y ago
  Agreed. If there's some non-related disease killing more people aged 25-40 than suicide does, the world is probably a more dangerous place than it is today.
- Sir_Substance 9y ago
  >Mathematically, something has to be the leading cause of death ages 25..44. What should it be? I'm a bit late here, but I think we could reasonably hope for things that are essentially random, such as car accidents, food poisoning, house fires, chronic birth defects or DIY mishaps. If you look at the actual causes of death[1] You can see that in that age bracket, this is broadly the case. "Unintentional injury" is #1, followed by suicide, followed by homicide, followed by cancer (which includes lung cancer ofc) and then heart disease. (The exact ordering varies a bit depending on source, but accidents->suicide->lung cancer->heart disease is definitely a broad trend) Your point is well made, but when suicide and homicide are above heart disease in the deaths of a nation famed for a national scale chronic weight problem, it's not hard to say that the US could probably do more on the mental health front. I'm of the opinion that the same is true for most of the western world. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/10lcid_all_deaths_by_age_group_2010-a.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/10lcid_all_deaths_by_...
manigandham 9y ago
...ok? Is working at Amazon a leading cause of suicide? Perhaps we should teach personal responsibility first.

The moral judgments are important on a societal level if we ever hope to address problems like suicide being one of the leading causes of death for westerners between 25 and 44 years old.

WalterBright 9y ago

Mathematically, something has to be the leading cause of death ages 25..44. What should it be? A leading cause may emerge simply because other leading causes were fixed, not because things are getting worse.

mathgeek 9y ago
Agreed. If there's some non-related disease killing more people aged 25-40 than suicide does, the world is probably a more dangerous place than it is today.
Sir_Substance 9y ago
>Mathematically, something has to be the leading cause of death ages 25..44. What should it be? I'm a bit late here, but I think we could reasonably hope for things that are essentially random, such as car accidents, food poisoning, house fires, chronic birth defects or DIY mishaps. If you look at the actual causes of death[1] You can see that in that age bracket, this is broadly the case. "Unintentional injury" is #1, followed by suicide, followed by homicide, followed by cancer (which includes lung cancer ofc) and then heart disease. (The exact ordering varies a bit depending on source, but accidents->suicide->lung cancer->heart disease is definitely a broad trend) Your point is well made, but when suicide and homicide are above heart disease in the deaths of a nation famed for a national scale chronic weight problem, it's not hard to say that the US could probably do more on the mental health front. I'm of the opinion that the same is true for most of the western world. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/10lcid_all_deaths_by_age_group_2010-a.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/10lcid_all_deaths_by_...

manigandham 9y ago

...ok? Is working at Amazon a leading cause of suicide? Perhaps we should teach personal responsibility first.