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Probably Trump. However, many of the issues the NSA faces occurred before Trump's administration.

chiefalchemist 9y ago
That's true. The concern should be Trump's sense of priorities. He's so easily distracted. He's seemingly more focused on Twitter than the NSA. He, similar to Obama, is the wrong "leader" at the wrong time. We're off course and getting more and more so with each day.
- totalZero 9y ago
  I'm just saying the NYT has clearly demonstrated that it has taken sides as a publication, and this bias doesn't make for good journalism, whether you agree with the bias or not.
- 0xbear 9y ago
  I think it’s everybody else that’s “easily distracted”. He uses his Twitter as a laser pointer with a cat, and he has been doing so for years. You don’t win an election against the Clinton political dynasty if you’re “easily distracted”.
  - chiefalchemist 9y ago
    Are you suggesting running a company is the same as leading a country? As for the election, history says otherwise. DNC incompetence as well as Clinton arrogance all but handed Trump & Co the win. In addition, the fact that a "political unknown" was able to bubble to the top of the GOP ticket is more of an indictment of that party than any significant skill on Trump's part. Who did he beat? Cruz? Rubio? That's a notworthy accomplishment? Pardon me for saying so (as it's not very HN) but...you're funny.
    - 0xbear 9y ago
      Where did I suggest that? And you try to beat Cruz or Rubio (let alone “arrogant” Clinton and the entirety of mainstream press), and then come here and tell us if it’s a noteworthy accomplishment.
      - chiefalchemist 9y ago
        Um. You're telling me the party that had 7+ years to plan for the repeal & replace of ACA but completely failed at that has able leadership? Those who campaigned for the ticket was the cream of the GOP crop. They're not competent. How is Trump punching his way out of a wet paper bag a sign of significance? I'm being snarky. I'm curious as to how anyone can see the rest of the GOP'ers that tried to get the nomination as being worthy or it.
        0xbear 9y ago
        Hillary wasn't worthy of her nomination, and yet here we are. Jeb Bush attempted the same thing, but failed very early on. You're failing to recognize that GOP establishment hates Trump just as much as Democratic establishment does. They would rather fail themselves than let him win, because they feel it in their guts that if he wins, he won't keep them around for long. He's an anti-establishment candidate. That's the platform he ran on, and that's the platform he will run on in 2020 (and likely win again, unless Democrats can suppress their utter disdain for rural, working class voters).
        chiefalchemist 9y ago
        Actually. I'm well aware - and have been preaching since he won - that both parties want Trump to fail. Imagine a non-politician coming in and actually getting things done. Are you kidding me? That would not make the rest of W.DC look good. So at this point, regardless of what you think about Trump, it's 4 more years of "let them eat cake" for we the people. That's guaranteed at this point.
- paulmd 9y ago
  The North Korean nucelear+missile programs are a tangible example of how Obama was the right leader. Under Obama these programs spun their wheels without traction for 8 solid years thanks to a huge amount of covert action from our intelligence agencies. Missiles blew up, centrifuges didn't work, etc, and all with little to no loss of American life. Under Trump they are not taken seriously and they have made significant progress in less than a year, and it's quite probable that military intervention will be necessary before Trump's term is up. It's well-known in the IC and Congress that Trump is a childlike senile fool who has no real grasp of any issue that can't be summarized in 160 characters. Certainly foreign leaders are well aware of it, ask Merkel what she thinks about him, let alone the less scrupulous countries like Saudi Arabia that are openly playing to it. People don't appreciate how many things were quietly going right under Obama, and now the world's trouble spots are being allowed to fester under Trump. Some career State Department roles are down 60% in less than a year. Putin picked a great leader for his purposes, American leadership in the world has been diminished significantly and the basic machinery of our government is grinding to a halt. A+++ would hack again. (of course there's no evidence that vote tallies were changed... yet. But the Trump campaign coordinated heavily with Russia and virtually everything short of changing vote tallies has been confirmed, so I just wouldn't be surprised to hear it at this point. There were quite a few "surprise wins" that nobody expected. It's quite likely that it can never be proved either way, thanks to the lack of paper trails and the active purge of some electronic records by state governments.)
  - chiefalchemist 9y ago
    > "People don't appreciate how many things were quietly going right under Obama..." Yes, but quietly works both ways. - Fracking hockey stick'ed on Obama's watch. In the context of climate change that's unimaginable. - Wall Street consolidated it's power (8 major banks down to 7) and there was no significant response. Not single WS exec was prosecuted after the 2008 crash. - The usage of drones - built by the MIC led by the CIA - increased as a proxy for foreign policy under Obama. Those civilian deaths, of which there are plenty, will eventually come back to haunt the USA. - Snowden happened on Obama's watch and the response... (editorial) I don't feel any safer, nor my rights any more protected. - BLM was on BO's watch and plenty of influential figures have been critical of Obama's response. - Flint MI happened on Obama's watch. A local issue perhaps but when the greatest country in the history of the world poisons its own with lead and the POTUS just gives another "that's not who we are speech" something isn't right. Finally, the USA empire has been on the decline for sometime. Neither Trump nor HRC were going to stop that slide. I'm not picking on Obama. He did a good job all in all. What concerns me is how willing the media has been not to paint the complete picture on some very significant issues / events. Things that will having a long lasting impact on the future of the USA, as well as the world.

That's true. The concern should be Trump's sense of priorities. He's so easily distracted. He's seemingly more focused on Twitter than the NSA. He, similar to Obama, is the wrong "leader" at the wrong time. We're off course and getting more and more so with each day.

totalZero 9y ago
I'm just saying the NYT has clearly demonstrated that it has taken sides as a publication, and this bias doesn't make for good journalism, whether you agree with the bias or not.
0xbear 9y ago
I think it’s everybody else that’s “easily distracted”. He uses his Twitter as a laser pointer with a cat, and he has been doing so for years. You don’t win an election against the Clinton political dynasty if you’re “easily distracted”.
- chiefalchemist 9y ago
  Are you suggesting running a company is the same as leading a country? As for the election, history says otherwise. DNC incompetence as well as Clinton arrogance all but handed Trump & Co the win. In addition, the fact that a "political unknown" was able to bubble to the top of the GOP ticket is more of an indictment of that party than any significant skill on Trump's part. Who did he beat? Cruz? Rubio? That's a notworthy accomplishment? Pardon me for saying so (as it's not very HN) but...you're funny.
  - 0xbear 9y ago
    Where did I suggest that? And you try to beat Cruz or Rubio (let alone “arrogant” Clinton and the entirety of mainstream press), and then come here and tell us if it’s a noteworthy accomplishment.
    - chiefalchemist 9y ago
      Um. You're telling me the party that had 7+ years to plan for the repeal & replace of ACA but completely failed at that has able leadership? Those who campaigned for the ticket was the cream of the GOP crop. They're not competent. How is Trump punching his way out of a wet paper bag a sign of significance? I'm being snarky. I'm curious as to how anyone can see the rest of the GOP'ers that tried to get the nomination as being worthy or it.
      - 0xbear 9y ago
        Hillary wasn't worthy of her nomination, and yet here we are. Jeb Bush attempted the same thing, but failed very early on. You're failing to recognize that GOP establishment hates Trump just as much as Democratic establishment does. They would rather fail themselves than let him win, because they feel it in their guts that if he wins, he won't keep them around for long. He's an anti-establishment candidate. That's the platform he ran on, and that's the platform he will run on in 2020 (and likely win again, unless Democrats can suppress their utter disdain for rural, working class voters).
        chiefalchemist 9y ago
        Actually. I'm well aware - and have been preaching since he won - that both parties want Trump to fail. Imagine a non-politician coming in and actually getting things done. Are you kidding me? That would not make the rest of W.DC look good. So at this point, regardless of what you think about Trump, it's 4 more years of "let them eat cake" for we the people. That's guaranteed at this point.
paulmd 9y ago
The North Korean nucelear+missile programs are a tangible example of how Obama was the right leader. Under Obama these programs spun their wheels without traction for 8 solid years thanks to a huge amount of covert action from our intelligence agencies. Missiles blew up, centrifuges didn't work, etc, and all with little to no loss of American life. Under Trump they are not taken seriously and they have made significant progress in less than a year, and it's quite probable that military intervention will be necessary before Trump's term is up. It's well-known in the IC and Congress that Trump is a childlike senile fool who has no real grasp of any issue that can't be summarized in 160 characters. Certainly foreign leaders are well aware of it, ask Merkel what she thinks about him, let alone the less scrupulous countries like Saudi Arabia that are openly playing to it. People don't appreciate how many things were quietly going right under Obama, and now the world's trouble spots are being allowed to fester under Trump. Some career State Department roles are down 60% in less than a year. Putin picked a great leader for his purposes, American leadership in the world has been diminished significantly and the basic machinery of our government is grinding to a halt. A+++ would hack again. (of course there's no evidence that vote tallies were changed... yet. But the Trump campaign coordinated heavily with Russia and virtually everything short of changing vote tallies has been confirmed, so I just wouldn't be surprised to hear it at this point. There were quite a few "surprise wins" that nobody expected. It's quite likely that it can never be proved either way, thanks to the lack of paper trails and the active purge of some electronic records by state governments.)
- chiefalchemist 9y ago
  > "People don't appreciate how many things were quietly going right under Obama..." Yes, but quietly works both ways. - Fracking hockey stick'ed on Obama's watch. In the context of climate change that's unimaginable. - Wall Street consolidated it's power (8 major banks down to 7) and there was no significant response. Not single WS exec was prosecuted after the 2008 crash. - The usage of drones - built by the MIC led by the CIA - increased as a proxy for foreign policy under Obama. Those civilian deaths, of which there are plenty, will eventually come back to haunt the USA. - Snowden happened on Obama's watch and the response... (editorial) I don't feel any safer, nor my rights any more protected. - BLM was on BO's watch and plenty of influential figures have been critical of Obama's response. - Flint MI happened on Obama's watch. A local issue perhaps but when the greatest country in the history of the world poisons its own with lead and the POTUS just gives another "that's not who we are speech" something isn't right. Finally, the USA empire has been on the decline for sometime. Neither Trump nor HRC were going to stop that slide. I'm not picking on Obama. He did a good job all in all. What concerns me is how willing the media has been not to paint the complete picture on some very significant issues / events. Things that will having a long lasting impact on the future of the USA, as well as the world.