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That's all these extensions are. Injecting stuff into websites, usually all of them. I needed a Chrome extension after they inexplicably broke backspace naviga

That's all these extensions are. Injecting stuff into websites, usually all of them. I needed a Chrome extension after they inexplicably broke backspace navigating backwards (it literally has the same icon as the backwards UI button). That extension needs to inject a script on every. single. website. It's like Google is spending millions upon dollars building convoluted sandboxing security features, and there is a place for that in protecting us from code execution. But then everyone is pushing for "apps on the web" and here we are with random extensions that can do everything. And they do: lots of them make money through selling your browsing history.

nothrabannosir 9y ago
> they inexplicably broke backspace navigating backwards Hallelujah, praise the lord! He is righteous and he is Good. Finally. I cannot count the number of times I accidentally hit tab in a form text input, backspace, and lose the entire form. Of course it’s built in JS so state isn’t saved by browser on going forward. Because why use standards? It’s 2017, ain’t nobody got time for functionality. It got so bad I now automatically open a text editor to write the text in, first. This was a bug bear of epic proportions. Good riddance.
- kuschku 9y ago
  That was the standard navigation method of every webbrowser for decades, not a bug.
  - kelnos 9y ago
    Just because something is and has been standard for a long time, it doesn't make it good UX.
  - merlish 9y ago
    It sucks that it's gone - it took me months to retrain my muscle memory to stop using backspace - but I've definitely accidentally navigated back from a form before. I've adjusted. It's a hard decision but imo the right one. Future generations shouldn't have to deal with this. To anyone reading who needs a keyboard-based substitute: Alt+Left Arrow.
    - kuschku 9y ago
      [Alt]+[←] requires two hands, though: One to press the [Alt] on the far left of the keyboard, one to press [←] on the far right of the keyboard. That’s horrible.
      - dawnbreez 9y ago
        I typically use a vim-like set of keybinds when possible, so for me it's something like shift-H or g,h.
      - jholman 9y ago
        That's weird, because I press it all the time with one hand. I don't even reliably use the same hand. Does your keyboard not have an Alt key to the right of the space-bar?
        kuschku 9y ago
        On international keyboards, there is no right alt key, but instead at that place is [AltGr], which triggers both [Alt] and [Ctrl]. [AltGr]+[M] for example gives μ, [AltGr]+[E] gives € and [AltGr]+[Q] gives [@]. Obviously, [AltGr]+[←] doesn't work. It's one more of those shortcuts that make it obvious that whoever made the decision only ever used a US Standard keyboard, and never even considered international users. The only decisions even worse are ever using ` (it's a 4 key combo on some international keyboards, and not at all existing on others), or ~ \ [ ] { } ( ) ; : (all of these are combinations of usually two or three keys on most international keyboards).
  - cesarb 9y ago
    As far as I know, using backspace to go back was something from Internet Explorer, which other browsers copied as a concession to users used to it, but only on Windows. I've used Firefox for over a decade, and backspace never went to the previous page for me, even on a new install, so "every webbrowser for decades" is a stretch.
    - kuschku 9y ago
      Firefox on Linux has supported it for ages, too. I’ve used it frequently, at least.
- kodablah 9y ago
  Meh, backspace-for-back should not fire when a input element of any type (i.e. including anchors) have an active focus. Also, "forward" should restore this state but since it's in JS perhaps the aim of your complaints is misplaced and should direct to the site owner. It should at least be opt in (not sure where the setting is in Chrome).
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nothrabannosir 9y ago

> they inexplicably broke backspace navigating backwards Hallelujah, praise the lord! He is righteous and he is Good. Finally. I cannot count the number of times I accidentally hit tab in a form text input, backspace, and lose the entire form. Of course it’s built in JS so state isn’t saved by browser on going forward. Because why use standards? It’s 2017, ain’t nobody got time for functionality. It got so bad I now automatically open a text editor to write the text in, first. This was a bug bear of epic proportions. Good riddance.

kuschku 9y ago
That was the standard navigation method of every webbrowser for decades, not a bug.
- kelnos 9y ago
  Just because something is and has been standard for a long time, it doesn't make it good UX.
- merlish 9y ago
  It sucks that it's gone - it took me months to retrain my muscle memory to stop using backspace - but I've definitely accidentally navigated back from a form before. I've adjusted. It's a hard decision but imo the right one. Future generations shouldn't have to deal with this. To anyone reading who needs a keyboard-based substitute: Alt+Left Arrow.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    [Alt]+[←] requires two hands, though: One to press the [Alt] on the far left of the keyboard, one to press [←] on the far right of the keyboard. That’s horrible.
    - dawnbreez 9y ago
      I typically use a vim-like set of keybinds when possible, so for me it's something like shift-H or g,h.
    - jholman 9y ago
      That's weird, because I press it all the time with one hand. I don't even reliably use the same hand. Does your keyboard not have an Alt key to the right of the space-bar?
      - kuschku 9y ago
        On international keyboards, there is no right alt key, but instead at that place is [AltGr], which triggers both [Alt] and [Ctrl]. [AltGr]+[M] for example gives μ, [AltGr]+[E] gives € and [AltGr]+[Q] gives [@]. Obviously, [AltGr]+[←] doesn't work. It's one more of those shortcuts that make it obvious that whoever made the decision only ever used a US Standard keyboard, and never even considered international users. The only decisions even worse are ever using ` (it's a 4 key combo on some international keyboards, and not at all existing on others), or ~ \ [ ] { } ( ) ; : (all of these are combinations of usually two or three keys on most international keyboards).
- cesarb 9y ago
  As far as I know, using backspace to go back was something from Internet Explorer, which other browsers copied as a concession to users used to it, but only on Windows. I've used Firefox for over a decade, and backspace never went to the previous page for me, even on a new install, so "every webbrowser for decades" is a stretch.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    Firefox on Linux has supported it for ages, too. I’ve used it frequently, at least.
kodablah 9y ago
Meh, backspace-for-back should not fire when a input element of any type (i.e. including anchors) have an active focus. Also, "forward" should restore this state but since it's in JS perhaps the aim of your complaints is misplaced and should direct to the site owner. It should at least be opt in (not sure where the setting is in Chrome).
- deleted 9y ago
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