Arguable we could say the same from IAR or WindRiver? I would love it if all these companies were more price transparent but ultimately they are not selling in

Arguable we could say the same from IAR or WindRiver? I would love it if all these companies were more price transparent but ultimately they are not selling in high volumes, like the likes of MSVC, so I would hazard guess they probably depend a lot more on the margins from each individual sale.