> Your ability as a Lisp programmer is entirely unrelated to your ability as a Windows/Linux/whatever sysadmin/build engineer/whatever. Are we sure? Isn't this

> Your ability as a Lisp programmer is entirely unrelated to your ability as a Windows/Linux/whatever sysadmin/build engineer/whatever. Are we sure? Isn't this a case of Law of Leaky Abstractions? We may think we can and should ignore issues related to underlying hardware, but reality is we can't and we shouldn't. As programmers we need a bit of knowledge about system administration too, even when we are working on a virtual machine. Kudos to Clojurers! Maybe there is more enthusiasm and understanding about newcomers in Clojure because it is a new language. That is, the are not under the Curse of Knowledge. We should acknowledge that Haskellers are trying to meet the needs of newcomers too, by releasing the Haskell Platform.