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The Church of the SubGenius Finally Plays It Straight
- jd3 9y agoAlthough people talking out of their ass about McLuhan have always annoyed me, that conspiracy nut who claims to be a 120 year old Bob (Neveritt) Dobbs is hilarious — his stuff is past performance art. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1JbomcBkck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1JbomcBkck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY4HG9YCUJk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY4HG9YCUJk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9kMq131GyE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9kMq131GyE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRJr1kKYFYY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRJr1kKYFYY
- TheSpiceIsLife 9y agoBrilliant! I've had the (dis?)pleasure of spending hours with people like this in real life. They certainly are entertaining.
- jd3 9y agoWatching this stuff tends to give me that dissociated-from-reality feeling that is only possible with certain media content (Richard Linklater's "Slacker", for one)
- jey 9y agoGood thing there's still Discordianism for those of us who are more serious. Hail Eris.
- obrajesse 9y agoI think this is the first time I’ve heard Discordianism described as “more serious” than something.
- Broken_Hippo 9y agoYou've obviously never met someone serious about their Discordianism. I suggest not commenting on the hot dog eating habits.
- SAI_Peregrinus 9y agoSome of us take our humor quite seriously. Serious business is humorous, and humor is serious business.
- labster 9y agoDiscordianism has always been serious, even when it's not. The end of the Principia Discordia even tells you to go back and reread it if you thought it was just a joke. Subgenii annoy me, because they do tend to make everything a joke, and for some reason it reflects on those of us in Eris' Apple Corps. Like no, we have a serious philosophical point to make here (don't take everything seriously) that really needs to be taken seriously.
- strathmeyer 9y agoseriously unable to be serious
- xbkingx 9y agoAll hail Discordia! I really put a lot of effort into becoming a Discordian pope, so I'm all for it. fnord
- princeb 9y agoslack... discord... ? what next, microsoftskypianity?
- egypturnash 9y agoAha! I see you are one of today's lucky 10,000! [1] Well, you would be, if I wasn’t too lazy to give a brief introduction to the American tradition of comedy Zen that both Discordianism[2] and The Church of the SubGenius[3] are manifestations of. Unless including Wikipedia links counts. It probably doesn’t. Hail Eris. 1:https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/ 2:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism 3:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius
- drdaeman 9y agoIt's a conspi^W^W unlucky that neither Slack[1] nor Discord[2] the messengers got their names from those. [1] http://www.businessinsider.com/where-did-slack-get-its-name-2016-9 http://www.businessinsider.com/where-did-slack-get-its-name-... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/4itsnj/why_did_you_guys_name_discord_discord/d319w82/ https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/4itsnj/why_did_...
- merlish 9y agoWow! I honestly thought they were references to the Church of SubGenius and Discordianism respectively. Odd how the names still make sense when viewed with the hacker sense of humour as if they were references...
- empath75 9y agoHonestly I’m skeptical of both of this explanations for the names.
- krrrh 9y agoOne of the little pleasures I had building a Linux From Scratch install was discovering that the GNU ddate [1] program was installed on most Linux distributions as a standard utility. Not sure if this is still the case, but it was funny to observe an inside joke make its way into so many internet servers. [1] converts Gregorian dates to Discordian dates https://linux.die.net/man/1/ddate https://linux.die.net/man/1/ddate
- khedoros1 9y agoWe use machines of many different architectures at work. At one point, I compiled ddate for every machine we had, and wrote a script that would select the correct version of the binary for the current platform, so that I could use it in my bashrc. Just checked on the Debian and Mint systems I've got here: not installed by default.
- krrrh 9y agoLooks like the con purged it from util-linux in 2002. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=149321 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=149321
- khedoros1 9y agoI think that about the time I first head about Discordianism, I was running Slackware (and I probably found it through the connect with Church of the SubGenius). That was in 2003 or 2004, so I'm guessing that Slackware probably continued including it past the time that Debian did.
- jerrysievert 9y agoall hail discordia! though, I have to say that going to many devivals in my time, I am still a fan of bob. x-day never came, but what can we do?
- jimjimjim 9y agodiscordians always seemed a bit too larp
- mirimir 9y agoNot at all. For larp, you want SCA :) I've fought in the Pennsic Wars. In chain mail jockstrap, with an 18" Bowie knife (rubber). The Wild Boys brigade :) Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJCzVscRgkw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJCzVscRgkw
- veli_joza 9y agoI've known about Slack before, but this is my first run-in with Discordia. The Three Core Principles sound saner than any other religion or movement core teachings. They are aligned with scientific perspective ("Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful") and with Buddhism teachings of 'seeing things for what they are'. Too bad about all the mythology nonsense and childish absurdism.
- fsiefken 9y agoYou might want to read the books by or listen to the talks of Robert Anton Wilson, here he talks about about the Subgenius in relationship to the Principia Discordia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qn1kilKVIw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qn1kilKVIw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7N6TOFyrLg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7N6TOFyrLg
- mirimir 9y agoAll hail Eris :)
- pmoriarty 9y ago"And besides, it really is an interesting story. There are interesting characters, and we're not going to be around forever. I'm 64, and I'm doing great, but we've lost a lot of us. They aren't going to get to be in the movie. They boarded the saucers prematurely. It's good to document this stuff and get it down in the real words." This part really resonated with me. There were so many things I was in to when I was younger that I liked but really didn't fully appreciate for the uniqueness of that particular time and place. It's never going to happen again, and if it's not documented, it'll just all fade away and no one who wasn't there then will know about it. So much of it seems so special in retrospect, especially to people who weren't there, but there's no way of going back now and recording it all, or interview all those people I had an opportunity to interview then but didn't. Something to think about for those of you who might be involved in some "underground" scenes today that the general public hasn't picked up on yet. I know you're out there and you know something we don't. Record it. Share it. Teach us. Interview the people who are involved in it. You might not get another chance.
- ghftyu666 9y agoI find it rather vain of folks to think humanity should care forever about their personal experiences That it won’t happen again or be known is part of the intrigue to me. Why do we need to keep propagating our own contemporary fascinations forward in time? We’re each going to die and very few of us will leave behind truly novel ideas that humanity can rely on Most of our experiences are emotionally novel for us, and that specific time and place creates that novelty. What makes them so will be completely lost on future people. So much information is inaccessible to them when reading about it or watching a poorly shot video And to me that’s the cool part about having been there. I’d rather folks go on creating such experiences for themselves than watch my highlight reel and never really get since they weren’t there
- pmoriarty 9y ago"I’d rather folks go on creating such experiences for themselves than watch my highlight reel and never really get since they weren’t there" Don't worry, 99.9% of people are consumers and do exactly what you desire: nothing. We'll never know much about their lives.
- pdog 9y ago> SKB: When the SubGenius was originally created, it was the trickle-down theory and Reaganomics. Those policies destroyed our middle class then, and it’s still affecting us today. I don't buy the argument that Reagan's policies destroyed the American middle class. Based on every available statistic, the middle class has been in decline since the early 1970s, a decade before Reagan was president.
- itomato 9y agoCancer patient dies from blunt trauma. News at 11.
- pdog 9y agoThe blunt trauma might be NAFTA, which came into force in 1994.
- logicchains 9y agoThere's actually a relatively non-controversial theory in economics that such trade agreements will decrease low-skilled wages in the richer country, at least in the short term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_price_equalization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_price_equalization. Economists generally consider this acceptable however as the models used suggest the benefit to the poor country and overall increase in global utility is greater than the loss faced by low-skilled workers in the richer country.
- icantdrive55 9y agoAnd let's hope these Economists are right? Right now it doesn't look to rosey for a lot of us. That mad rush to the border did take place. And who knows what other damage it has done? I wonder if there has ever been another country who seemed to have so much experiment so much with theories? (They were not Economists who passed NAFTA, it was good old Lobbiests. I wish Economists were passing laws--some days.)
- CodeWriter23 9y ago
- indescions_2017 9y agoA great place to start might be reviving alt.binaries.slack. Or a countdown ticker for is-it-x-day-yet.com :)
- UncleSlacky 9y agoAlt.slack still exists, and is fairly active, too. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.slack https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.slack
- boq 9y agobreaking news, joke religion was a joke all along
- giancarlostoro 9y agoAlso inspiration for Slackware. One of the oldest Linux distributions in existence. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Volkerding#Personal_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Volkerding#Personal_li...
- jimjimjim 9y agoAnd still a very good distribution. rock solid and very predictable with no weird magic stuff that may or may not work.
- bstamour 9y agoYep! It runs on all of my personal gear for that exact reason. Praise Bob!
- giancarlostoro 9y agoIt was my first distro in 2007. I always loved it, just cannot use it now due to hardware, I just cannot find it upon myself to spend time trying to force my hardware drivers on there, that and the whole upgrading concept. Otherwise I'd happily install it anywhere. Another distro I fell in love with recently openSUSE has it's roots back to Slackware it seems.
- yellowapple 9y agoOne of? It's the oldest that's still in active development :)
- sallyfour 9y agoAnybody else a Rev. Dr. here?
- cjsuk 9y agoRev. Lost his certificate about 15 years ago and can’t remember here :(
- revscat 9y agoRev. Dr. Scatological Warfare checking in.
- emacsgifs 9y agoRev. Ocodo of Eschatologosis checking in.
- DonHopkins 9y agoOh guuuuumby?
- robotbikes 9y agoI remember the first thing I ever saw on the internet was an ASCII face of Bob Dobbs on a gopher site somewhere. This was back in the early 90s when MTV.com was owned by one of the VJs and web browsers were called Mosaic.
- DonHopkins 9y agoI'm hoping to hear more about the notorious "Cult performer arrested in rail tunnel" / "Poop & Pee Dog Copyright Violation" incident... I'm sure it was just a big misunderstanding, and there are two sides to the story. http://accelerateddecrepitude.blogspot.nl/2012/02/his-name-is-not-legend-its-tentatively.html http://accelerateddecrepitude.blogspot.nl/2012/02/his-name-i... The Baltimore Sun's Ann Lolordo reported, "As they entered the tunnel which leads into Camden Station, police heard a loud banging sound, like cymbals crashing. Then, police said, they saw a dead animal hanging from the ceiling and a man standing in the dark tunnel, his naked body covered with 'a glowing paint.'" https://minxuslynxus2.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/poop-pee-dog-copyright-violation-ceremony-documentation-by-tentatively-a-convenience/ https://minxuslynxus2.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/poop-pee-dog-... ... I was naked except for my shoes & socks & I had white squiggly lines painted on me. I danced & gyrated wildly & beat the dogs & the thunder sheet with a club. The dogs were on fire & exuded what one might call a “foul” smell. I had been entrusted with the sacred head of Arnold Palmer by a representative of the Bloody Head Launcher’s Society which I had set on fire & which I was also beating about the tunnel ...
- CodeWriter23 9y agoOne of my long time friends and a fellow member came to visit a few years back. Before he left, he put "Kill Bob" easter eggs (via post it notes) in various locations in my house. These little fountains of Slack remain in place and I will leave them when I move out. Except for the one on the back of my monitor.