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Whereas in my jurisdiction (USA), corporate media conglomerates employ PhD trained child psychologists who research the exact pattern and timing of flashes and

Whereas in my jurisdiction (USA), corporate media conglomerates employ PhD trained child psychologists who research the exact pattern and timing of flashes and other stimuli to catch an iron grip on a child's attention. Our children do not stand a chance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi63rXnuWbw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi63rXnuWbw

jacobush 9y ago
Nor our adults, in 15-20 years
socialist_coder 9y ago
Nor our adults, now.
- jerf 9y ago
  I find myself uncomfortably watching the threshold of will power and competence to use the internet safely creeping up slowly, but very steadily over time. Sometimes I use a browser in a context where I have my ad-blocking shields down (someone else's system, a browser after an upgrade briefly trashes my config), and it's disturbing to me that despite being fully armed with HN-grade world-weary cynicism and the fact that I've been online for coming up on 25-ish years now (starting with BBSes before I could get on the Internet proper), that Taboola crap still sometimes takes conscious effort to not click on it, because it's that good. Goodness help me if they were any good at delivering what those articles promised, because what usually saves me is remembering that it's just straight up a lie. To be clear, this is still a sub-second process in my head, but it still disturbs me that they can get even that far. I have two children, 9 and 6. I find myself wondering how long it's going to be before I can trust them on the Internet at all; is the necessary competence receding at a rate greater than one year per year? Ten years ago I would have confidently said "no", and my primary threat model would have been "don't do stupid things that get you computer viruses". Now it's ads, and this sort of crap.
  - jacobush 9y ago
    By HN-comment standards this my reply is probably useless. But as a human being to another (who also has kids), well put. And creepy - I wonder the same.
technofiend 9y ago
>Our children do not stand a chance. They do but it requires the parents ban any and all media with advertising.
- brett40324 9y ago
  I second that, and would like to bold caps scream IT REQUIRES PARENTS!
Pulcinella 9y ago
Sometimes I think that if speach was truly, literally unlimited and free (beer & otherwise) the problem wouldn’t be Nazis, hate speech, or trolling, but advertising and spam overwhelming everything else. Imagine grey market viagra emails stomping on human cukture, forever.

jacobush 9y ago

Nor our adults, in 15-20 years

socialist_coder 9y ago

Nor our adults, now.

jerf 9y ago
I find myself uncomfortably watching the threshold of will power and competence to use the internet safely creeping up slowly, but very steadily over time. Sometimes I use a browser in a context where I have my ad-blocking shields down (someone else's system, a browser after an upgrade briefly trashes my config), and it's disturbing to me that despite being fully armed with HN-grade world-weary cynicism and the fact that I've been online for coming up on 25-ish years now (starting with BBSes before I could get on the Internet proper), that Taboola crap still sometimes takes conscious effort to not click on it, because it's that good. Goodness help me if they were any good at delivering what those articles promised, because what usually saves me is remembering that it's just straight up a lie. To be clear, this is still a sub-second process in my head, but it still disturbs me that they can get even that far. I have two children, 9 and 6. I find myself wondering how long it's going to be before I can trust them on the Internet at all; is the necessary competence receding at a rate greater than one year per year? Ten years ago I would have confidently said "no", and my primary threat model would have been "don't do stupid things that get you computer viruses". Now it's ads, and this sort of crap.
- jacobush 9y ago
  By HN-comment standards this my reply is probably useless. But as a human being to another (who also has kids), well put. And creepy - I wonder the same.

technofiend 9y ago

>Our children do not stand a chance. They do but it requires the parents ban any and all media with advertising.

brett40324 9y ago
I second that, and would like to bold caps scream IT REQUIRES PARENTS!

Pulcinella 9y ago

Sometimes I think that if speach was truly, literally unlimited and free (beer & otherwise) the problem wouldn’t be Nazis, hate speech, or trolling, but advertising and spam overwhelming everything else. Imagine grey market viagra emails stomping on human cukture, forever.