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What communities are you seeing this in? In the firearms/gun rights communities, it seems like the prevailing opinion is that YouTube is specifically targeting

What communities are you seeing this in? In the firearms/gun rights communities, it seems like the prevailing opinion is that YouTube is specifically targeting them based on political bias. I've not really considering it much, but your comment makes me wonder if their issues are part of a much larger pattern.

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rrhd 9y ago
> it seems like the prevailing opinion is that YouTube is specifically targeting them based on political bias That's because they like to be victims. It's all about the narrative. If you look around you see this happening broadly. You see a lot of people concerned about it who don't even mention politics.
- justaman 9y ago
  Generally its the left that tends to play the victim card for sympathy points. Clearly both sides do this however because its(unfortunately) a powerful card to play. If you look at independent conservative youtubers such as Lauren Southern in particular you'll see the clear bias YT has.
  - rrhd 9y ago
    The left likes to play victim about other things. Conservatives love to push the idea that they were targeted purely for being conservative. Look at the reaction around Damore, for example. It's all about how conservatives are being oppressed, how you can't trust the media and tech because they hate conservatives.
  - rat87 9y ago
    > If you look at independent conservative youtubers such as Lauren Southern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern > Lauren Southern (/ˈsʌðərn/; born 16 June,[3] 1995) is a Canadian far-right political activist, book author, and internet personality associated with the alt-right.[4][5][6] In 2015, Southern ran as a Libertarian Party candidate in the Canadian federal election. She worked for The Rebel Media, a far-right online media company based in Canada, until leaving in March 2017. She also tried to physically prevent refugee rescuers with a far right "identitarian" group Now she doesn't sound so innocent and the reason for YT decision seems pretty clear and uncontroversial
rhizome 9y ago
The persecution complex comes directly from the NRA's uncompromising lobbying and ad strategies, and the perception of threats is based on received wisdom formulated entirely through the gun industry's profit motive.
- MichaelGG 9y ago
  What? You sure it doesn't come from the steady erosion of gun rights? Calls from all sorts of shifty politicians to restrict things, even when it makes no sense. Like after the LV shooting, when there is still no explanation available, just lies, yet people still use it to justify taking away more rights? I used to think the NRA was nuts, then I saw that there's no negotiating with the other side. Gun owners only stand to lose, and have consistently had their rights destroyed. If they didn't have a persecution complex, they wouldn't be paying attention.
  - rhizome 9y ago
    have consistently had their rights destroyed. They absolutely have not, and this formulation illustrates the extreme positioning that the NRA has fostered for you to adopt. If you think the NRA stands for gun owners' rights more than the profits of the manufacturers, explain their response to the Philando Castile murder.
    - MichaelGG 9y ago
      Really? California lawmakers that literally invent terms write anti gun laws. Hell in Canada we had people flip through a magazine and cross out scary guns. There's even non existent guns banned by name. The only NRA response I found echos what I first thought. Gun pointed at you? Don't move a single bit unless exactly directed. I figured that out in real-time, because I'm not going to trust some stressed out cop to stay chill. Particularly more if I appeared to be part of the highest crime demographic. It's still unfortunate and the cop should have had more training perhaps. But I guess I'm falling for propaganda.
Feniks 9y ago
This may be extremely shocking for Americans but most international companies do not in any way, shape or form want to be associated with guns. No IKEA doesn't want to put an ad under your video of your daughter's first AR-15.

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rrhd 9y ago

> it seems like the prevailing opinion is that YouTube is specifically targeting them based on political bias That's because they like to be victims. It's all about the narrative. If you look around you see this happening broadly. You see a lot of people concerned about it who don't even mention politics.

justaman 9y ago
Generally its the left that tends to play the victim card for sympathy points. Clearly both sides do this however because its(unfortunately) a powerful card to play. If you look at independent conservative youtubers such as Lauren Southern in particular you'll see the clear bias YT has.
- rrhd 9y ago
  The left likes to play victim about other things. Conservatives love to push the idea that they were targeted purely for being conservative. Look at the reaction around Damore, for example. It's all about how conservatives are being oppressed, how you can't trust the media and tech because they hate conservatives.
- rat87 9y ago
  > If you look at independent conservative youtubers such as Lauren Southern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern > Lauren Southern (/ˈsʌðərn/; born 16 June,[3] 1995) is a Canadian far-right political activist, book author, and internet personality associated with the alt-right.[4][5][6] In 2015, Southern ran as a Libertarian Party candidate in the Canadian federal election. She worked for The Rebel Media, a far-right online media company based in Canada, until leaving in March 2017. She also tried to physically prevent refugee rescuers with a far right "identitarian" group Now she doesn't sound so innocent and the reason for YT decision seems pretty clear and uncontroversial

rhizome 9y ago

The persecution complex comes directly from the NRA's uncompromising lobbying and ad strategies, and the perception of threats is based on received wisdom formulated entirely through the gun industry's profit motive.

MichaelGG 9y ago
What? You sure it doesn't come from the steady erosion of gun rights? Calls from all sorts of shifty politicians to restrict things, even when it makes no sense. Like after the LV shooting, when there is still no explanation available, just lies, yet people still use it to justify taking away more rights? I used to think the NRA was nuts, then I saw that there's no negotiating with the other side. Gun owners only stand to lose, and have consistently had their rights destroyed. If they didn't have a persecution complex, they wouldn't be paying attention.
- rhizome 9y ago
  have consistently had their rights destroyed. They absolutely have not, and this formulation illustrates the extreme positioning that the NRA has fostered for you to adopt. If you think the NRA stands for gun owners' rights more than the profits of the manufacturers, explain their response to the Philando Castile murder.
  - MichaelGG 9y ago
    Really? California lawmakers that literally invent terms write anti gun laws. Hell in Canada we had people flip through a magazine and cross out scary guns. There's even non existent guns banned by name. The only NRA response I found echos what I first thought. Gun pointed at you? Don't move a single bit unless exactly directed. I figured that out in real-time, because I'm not going to trust some stressed out cop to stay chill. Particularly more if I appeared to be part of the highest crime demographic. It's still unfortunate and the cop should have had more training perhaps. But I guess I'm falling for propaganda.

Feniks 9y ago

This may be extremely shocking for Americans but most international companies do not in any way, shape or form want to be associated with guns. No IKEA doesn't want to put an ad under your video of your daughter's first AR-15.