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I've recently switched from an old Mac Pro to a Lenovo x1 carbon (QHD, 16gb RAM, 512 SSD, i7). It was half the price of the equivalent current Mac Pro, with mor

by lz400 9y ago

I've recently switched from an old Mac Pro to a Lenovo x1 carbon (QHD, 16gb RAM, 512 SSD, i7). It was half the price of the equivalent current Mac Pro, with more ports and better battery life, no gimmicky touch bar BS and a much better keyboard imho (although the trackpad is worse). Software wise, I use Windows 10 with the linux subsystem + a Linux VM (Elementary OS). I must confess both Windows and Linux are still a bit behind in hidpi support and the linux subsystem is not as well integrated as a MacOS console but I'm in general quite happy and while Apple designs these overpriced underpowered laptops with horrible features I can't really go back, even though the software stack might still be a little bit better for developers.

WalterGR 9y ago
although the trackpad is worse I haven't found a single Windows laptop whose trackpad can be pushed in (thus registering a mouse click) at the top of the trackpad. All I can think is that Apple is aggressively asserting some patent(s). Is there an alternate explanation? Have I just not come across Windows laptops with good trackpads?
- lz400 9y ago
  The 2 finger scrolling is pretty bad too, frequently doesn't respond or makes the font bigger or other nonsense. Apple has the best trackpads no doubt.
berberous 9y ago
To each their own, but FWIW, I have a MBP and an X1 and I _greatly_ prefer the former. I think the new touch bars were a mistake, and I think Apple is expensive and the QA going downhill, but the overall quality and customer service are still miles and miles beyond the X1.
- lz400 9y ago
  Yes, Apple customer service is worlds beyond Lenovo, I had to return a defective laptop and it took months and painful calls. But still, the hardware is just more competitive in Lenovo. And YMMV but I can't deal with the new MBPs' keyboard, touch bar and lack of ports. It's just a show stopper for me.
  - lostmsu 9y ago
    I've got Acer fix mine in 2 weeks including delivery. How can Lenovo be that bad.
    - lz400 9y ago
      It was a bit of a mess. Took 4 weeks from ordering to delivery, arrived defective. Called them, they said we'll pick it up, repair it and return in 1 week, I said ok. After 3 weeks I called them, they say they are waiting for a spare part, will take ~2 months. I say I want a new one, they tell me ok but that they need to send me the broken one and then I need to restart everything, so ~5 weeks more. Definitely the worst thing about Lenovo is CS.

by lz400 9y ago

WalterGR 9y ago

although the trackpad is worse I haven't found a single Windows laptop whose trackpad can be pushed in (thus registering a mouse click) at the top of the trackpad. All I can think is that Apple is aggressively asserting some patent(s). Is there an alternate explanation? Have I just not come across Windows laptops with good trackpads?

lz400 9y ago
The 2 finger scrolling is pretty bad too, frequently doesn't respond or makes the font bigger or other nonsense. Apple has the best trackpads no doubt.

berberous 9y ago

To each their own, but FWIW, I have a MBP and an X1 and I _greatly_ prefer the former. I think the new touch bars were a mistake, and I think Apple is expensive and the QA going downhill, but the overall quality and customer service are still miles and miles beyond the X1.

lz400 9y ago
Yes, Apple customer service is worlds beyond Lenovo, I had to return a defective laptop and it took months and painful calls. But still, the hardware is just more competitive in Lenovo. And YMMV but I can't deal with the new MBPs' keyboard, touch bar and lack of ports. It's just a show stopper for me.
- lostmsu 9y ago
  I've got Acer fix mine in 2 weeks including delivery. How can Lenovo be that bad.
  - lz400 9y ago
    It was a bit of a mess. Took 4 weeks from ordering to delivery, arrived defective. Called them, they said we'll pick it up, repair it and return in 1 week, I said ok. After 3 weeks I called them, they say they are waiting for a spare part, will take ~2 months. I say I want a new one, they tell me ok but that they need to send me the broken one and then I need to restart everything, so ~5 weeks more. Definitely the worst thing about Lenovo is CS.