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I wonder if this is a factor in why large tech organizations like Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft etc have been so keen to register their own TLDs. Now they
by advisedwang 9y ago
I wonder if this is a factor in why large tech organizations like Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft etc have been so keen to register their own TLDs. Now they only depend on root NS and their own infrastructure, and not _any_ ccTLD provider.
- gist 9y agoIf that were the case then Amazon and practically everyone else wouldn't be running under .com which of course is managed by Verisign. Will also note that Amazon is a registrar but relies (as others do) on markmonitor.com to be the registrar for their own domain .com name. Ditto for google which is also a registrar. So they could be the registrar for their own .com domain but choose not to do so.
- CydeWeys 9y agoDomain names are amazingly sticky. You'll likely start seeing increased news of companies using their closed TLDs, but don't expect too many existing sites moving over.
- CydeWeys 9y agoYes, this is one of the major reasons that we registered our own TLDs. It's definitely not a secret. Source: I'm the tech lead of Google Registry.
- mmerlin 9y agoAny hint of a timeline for .app availability? https://www.registry.google/about/domains.html https://www.registry.google/about/domains.html
- CydeWeys 9y agoStay tuned.
- jameskegel 9y ago...wink one time if measured in weeks, wink two times if measured in months
- CydeWeys 9y agoWell it's definitely not weeks. The rollout process for a TLD takes several months, most parts of which are unavoidably public.
- Veelox 9y agoYou really expect to hear a product update via HN comment?
- CydeWeys 9y agoWe do actually find these kinds of comments helpful, because it lets us know which of our TLDs are in highest demand.
- JdeBP 9y agoGiven the likes of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15353027 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15353027 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15269832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15269832 , it is not beyond the bounds of possibility.
- dx034 9y agoMay I ask why Google isn't using it's own TLD yet? I just tried combinations such as mail.google, maps.google or news.google and would've expect that they at least redirect to the equivalent.
- JdeBP 9y agoRead https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15353142 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15353142 for starters.
- CydeWeys 9y agoThere's very little value in adding new domain names solely to serve as redirects, because the best practice is to only have a single canonical domain name anyway. We are starting to launch new sites on our TLDs, e.g. https://registry.google https://registry.google https://domains.google https://domains.google https://ai.google https://ai.google https://blog.google https://blog.google https://pride.google https://pride.google Don't forget, .google is far from the only closed TLD we have, too.
- tmzt 9y agoIt was recently pointed out that .dev while never officially sanctioned for the purpose has been used extensively as a test TLD for development servers. Would Google entertain supporting something like .local.dev for this purpose, used only within a single organization and without reverse-lookup supported? If not, is there a better alternative that also maintains the aesthetics as well as the similarity with production domain names?
- CydeWeys 9y agoMore likely is that we'd simply launch .dev as an openly available TLD (based on inquiries it seems to be in demand). Once it's open you could follow best practices by simply buying the actual domain name you intend to use. Whether it routes on the Internet at large is entirely up to you and how you configure the nameservers. We use real domain names for all of our dev servers on my team. They happen to be .co domain names, not our own TLDs, because of a chicken-and-the-egg problem.
- joering2 9y agoWith so many issues related to non .com TLD, I was in deep shock to learn Google registered abc.xyz