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That sounds like a really complicated issue without a clear solution and no benefit to whoever solves it. By comparison I think it would be easier to make a se
by krisives 9y ago
That sounds like a really complicated issue without a clear solution and no benefit to whoever solves it.
By comparison I think it would be easier to make a self driving car or automated robot that does most of what a heroin addict does.
Sounds terrible don’t care I’m out of sympathy for addicts in society.
- oliwarner 9y agoI think what is becoming clear now is that not all opiate addicts are recreational users. Many are victims of inappropriate prescriptions and lack of follow-up and supervision.
- krisives 9y agoFor how long though? Having watched it first hand you can make whatever excuse you want for the first use, bad boyfriend, pharma industry, etc. My sister has been on heroin for probably 8 years now. She will call and ask for money and if anyone says no she spouts this same bullshit about it's not her fault etc. and she's an addict. We send her to rehab, she runs away, can't even tell you how many times I've seen it. Her 4 kids are taken away from her she doesn't even attempt to visit them in any capacity. Look close enough at a heroin addict you'll find a regular shitty person underneath it.
- oliwarner 9y agoAnd that stinks. For everybody involved. You can only do your best. But it sounds like you're writing them all off, writing the problem off, as something that's just unavoidable, untreatable. It can be both avoided and treated, it just doesn't always work.
- fjsolwmv 9y agoWhy didn't you notice the dirtiness before heroin?
- krisives 9y agoThe main point of my post was that them being shitty "because of heroine" is a false premise.
- jrowley 9y agoLike I said in my post, it's only a matter of time until you encounter it first hand, especially if you take a short stroll through select neighborhoods in most large cities. Its obvious you've thought about the issue but I urge you to engage with it by witnessing it first hand. Addicts are people too - they deserve compassion from society just as much as you or I do.
- krisives 9y agoMy sister is a heroin addict I've encountered enough =) Also I have lived in Salem, Oregon look up it's statistics. Just because my heart doesn't bleed for people who wouldn't do shit to help you doesn't mean I don't understand the problem.
- jrowley 9y agoFair enough - sounds like we may irreconcilable ethical differences. Maybe I'll get more exposed to the issue and more jaded over time. Thanks for explaining your perspective.
- krisives 9y agoI got up to get something to eat and the restaurant I wanted to eat at couldn't open because a group of heroin addicts outside sleeping on the steps refused to move until they were given food. That was about 40 minutes ago.
- cjhanks 9y agoYou're going to have to teach that automated robot to rob cars, prostitute, shoplift, neglect children, and beg for money on the streets too, if you want it to be realistic. Even if you gave up on sympathy for addicts (and I understand, I was in Portland and have been along that hellish amtrak line) - the problem affects all of us, whether we like it or not.