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> These days, most products are made in China, but usually some other local company acts as an intermediary to ensure that the product is developed to specifica

> These days, most products are made in China, but usually some other local company acts as an intermediary to ensure that the product is developed to specification and without other "features" that shouldn't be there. However, this additional protection goes out of the window when people decide to purchase directly from Chinese manufacturers via Chinese marketplaces. Come on, it's not like American manufacturers are a paragon of user privacy, was this jingoistic jab necessary? "Obscure manufacturer screws up" doesn't imply "Chinese engineers are completely worthless".

mastax 9y ago
You can sue an importer or distributor, you can't (reasonably) sue a local Chinese company. I'm not sure this attitude has to be jingoistic or irrational.
userbinator 9y ago
Indeed, just Google "Windows 10 keylogger" and see what Microsoft put in the OS itself... Some "obscure manufacturer" collecting this information gets a "warning" article, yet Microsoft, who is probably collecting the same if not even more detailed information about what you type and everything else, generated plenty of "telemetry is good for you" articles instead? Something doesn't seem right here...
userpass 9y ago
I don't know through what kind of mental gymnastics you managed to come to that conclusion but let me try to get rid of your cognitive dissonance. If chinese engineers are completely worthless then how do american companies manage to let chinese manufacture their products to american QA standards but chinese companies selling to chinese markets fail to adhere to them and only follow chinese QA standards? It's quite simple if you think about it. American companies have american QA standards. Chinese companies have chinese QA standards. If you buy from a chinese shopping platform you get products that meet chinese QA standards. If you buy from an american shopping platform the products follow american QA standards. It has nothing to do with competency of the engineers.

mastax 9y ago

You can sue an importer or distributor, you can't (reasonably) sue a local Chinese company. I'm not sure this attitude has to be jingoistic or irrational.

userbinator 9y ago

Indeed, just Google "Windows 10 keylogger" and see what Microsoft put in the OS itself... Some "obscure manufacturer" collecting this information gets a "warning" article, yet Microsoft, who is probably collecting the same if not even more detailed information about what you type and everything else, generated plenty of "telemetry is good for you" articles instead? Something doesn't seem right here...

userpass 9y ago

I don't know through what kind of mental gymnastics you managed to come to that conclusion but let me try to get rid of your cognitive dissonance. If chinese engineers are completely worthless then how do american companies manage to let chinese manufacture their products to american QA standards but chinese companies selling to chinese markets fail to adhere to them and only follow chinese QA standards? It's quite simple if you think about it. American companies have american QA standards. Chinese companies have chinese QA standards. If you buy from a chinese shopping platform you get products that meet chinese QA standards. If you buy from an american shopping platform the products follow american QA standards. It has nothing to do with competency of the engineers.