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"Veterans of even 20 years in the federal prison system could not recall anyone being bailed in mid-sentence like this, and particularly not on the heels of una

"Veterans of even 20 years in the federal prison system could not recall anyone being bailed in mid-sentence like this, and particularly not on the heels of unanimous Supreme and Circuit Appeals Court decisions." The justice system evidently works in mysterious ways for rich, connected neoconservatives. Conrad Black's fraud was blatant, he hid and destroyed evidence of it, and has shown no remorse. After siphoning more than $6M of money from the company, he served a little over two years. $3M/year is a pretty good salary for living in minimum security prison.

cpr 16y ago
Evidence, please?
- neilk 16y ago
  There are a number of citations in the references to the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Conrad_Black http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Conrad_Black
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fleitz 16y ago
The only difference between Black and normal people in the justice system is that Black has the resources to make it a fair fight. I applaud Black for fighting it all the way and because he fought it all the way this one of many egregious statutes will no longer be used to put innocent people in jail. If the state could have proved a fraud charge they would have, but they couldn't. You don't get unanimous supreme court victories by accident. The law was clearly illegal. Lord Black is an example Canadians should hold high who rejected his country by giving up citizenship rather than letting politics get in the way of much deserved honours. He is a true patriot.
- halostatue 16y ago
  Lord Black is not a Canadian patriot. A patriot would not have given his citizenship up for power and dubious honours. There are things that COULD have been done without forcing the loss of his citizenship, such as honourary knighthoods. Instead, he decided he wanted something explicitly prohibited by Canadian law. I believe that Conrad Black committed fraud; I also believe he was railroaded by the American legal system. It's good that he can fight this because he has money and powerful friends, but America should do better. I find it interesting that Black decries the public defender system (and it IS broken) but offers no ideas for what could fix or replace it.
  - fleitz 16y ago
    It's not prohibited by law. Canadian law has no jurisdiction in other countries. Also, if titular honors are prohibited by foreign governments why do we have a Queen?
    - halostatue 16y ago
      A quick search shows up the Nickle Resolution: http://www.canadianencyclopedia.ca/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0009566 http://www.canadianencyclopedia.ca/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Pa... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_titles_debate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_titles_debate Canadians are (like Americans, although for different reasons) prohibited from accepting foreign titles. That's pretty much "against the law" to me.

cpr 16y ago

Evidence, please?

neilk 16y ago
There are a number of citations in the references to the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Conrad_Black http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Conrad_Black

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fleitz 16y ago

The only difference between Black and normal people in the justice system is that Black has the resources to make it a fair fight. I applaud Black for fighting it all the way and because he fought it all the way this one of many egregious statutes will no longer be used to put innocent people in jail. If the state could have proved a fraud charge they would have, but they couldn't. You don't get unanimous supreme court victories by accident. The law was clearly illegal. Lord Black is an example Canadians should hold high who rejected his country by giving up citizenship rather than letting politics get in the way of much deserved honours. He is a true patriot.

halostatue 16y ago
Lord Black is not a Canadian patriot. A patriot would not have given his citizenship up for power and dubious honours. There are things that COULD have been done without forcing the loss of his citizenship, such as honourary knighthoods. Instead, he decided he wanted something explicitly prohibited by Canadian law. I believe that Conrad Black committed fraud; I also believe he was railroaded by the American legal system. It's good that he can fight this because he has money and powerful friends, but America should do better. I find it interesting that Black decries the public defender system (and it IS broken) but offers no ideas for what could fix or replace it.
- fleitz 16y ago
  It's not prohibited by law. Canadian law has no jurisdiction in other countries. Also, if titular honors are prohibited by foreign governments why do we have a Queen?
  - halostatue 16y ago
    A quick search shows up the Nickle Resolution: http://www.canadianencyclopedia.ca/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0009566 http://www.canadianencyclopedia.ca/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Pa... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_titles_debate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_titles_debate Canadians are (like Americans, although for different reasons) prohibited from accepting foreign titles. That's pretty much "against the law" to me.