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The statement that CUPS was developed by Apple is disingenuous at best. Engineers who know the full history of CUPS should speak up and ask the cups.org site to

The statement that CUPS was developed by Apple is disingenuous at best. Engineers who know the full history of CUPS should speak up and ask the cups.org site to remove this false claim.

SEJeff 9y ago
Apple hired the guy with the (c) on most all of it and with it he gave them control to do things like this. He is an Apple employee and he developed most of it, therefor Apple developed CUPS. A bit odd yes, but not a lie per-se.
- michaelmrose 9y ago
  It is a lie. You don't become the ex post facto creator of a thing by choosing to employ the party that originally created cups. Apple developed cups is a different statement from apple now employs the party that created cups.
dsp1234 9y ago
Apple owns the copyright for CUPS. Apple employs the original developer of CUPS, which is Michael Sweet. Apple employees (Michael Sweet) made 150 commits in the last year and a half. The next contributor has 7. He has 50k+ additions/deletions. The next contributor has 8k. It's safe to say that Apple develops CUPS. edit: Michael Sweet himself in this announcement also uses the terms "Apple is excited to announce" and "we"[0] [0] - https://lists.cups.org/pipermail/cups-devel/2017-November/017085.html https://lists.cups.org/pipermail/cups-devel/2017-November/01...
- chmaynard 9y ago
  Using your logic, one could argue that LLVM was also developed by Apple. I think Chris Lattner might object to that claim.
  - Twisell 9y ago
    I think lattner will never bite the hand that feeded him and trusted him and his team to develop a new language (Swift) even if he now is sailing with another company.
jamesgeck0 9y ago
Apple bought the source code and hired the creator of CUPS a decade ago. I'm sure he's aware of what the website says.
andrewf 9y ago
I read "developed by Apple" as present tense. Dictionaries claim that "developed" is past tense, but there's plenty of Google results for "is developed by". If it wasn't for the passive voice, "develops"/"developed" would clear up the ambiguity :)

The statement that CUPS was developed by Apple is disingenuous at best. Engineers who know the full history of CUPS should speak up and ask the cups.org site to remove this false claim.

SEJeff 9y ago

Apple hired the guy with the (c) on most all of it and with it he gave them control to do things like this. He is an Apple employee and he developed most of it, therefor Apple developed CUPS. A bit odd yes, but not a lie per-se.

michaelmrose 9y ago
It is a lie. You don't become the ex post facto creator of a thing by choosing to employ the party that originally created cups. Apple developed cups is a different statement from apple now employs the party that created cups.

dsp1234 9y ago

Apple owns the copyright for CUPS. Apple employs the original developer of CUPS, which is Michael Sweet. Apple employees (Michael Sweet) made 150 commits in the last year and a half. The next contributor has 7. He has 50k+ additions/deletions. The next contributor has 8k. It's safe to say that Apple develops CUPS. edit: Michael Sweet himself in this announcement also uses the terms "Apple is excited to announce" and "we"[0] [0] - https://lists.cups.org/pipermail/cups-devel/2017-November/017085.html https://lists.cups.org/pipermail/cups-devel/2017-November/01...

chmaynard 9y ago
Using your logic, one could argue that LLVM was also developed by Apple. I think Chris Lattner might object to that claim.
- Twisell 9y ago
  I think lattner will never bite the hand that feeded him and trusted him and his team to develop a new language (Swift) even if he now is sailing with another company.

jamesgeck0 9y ago

Apple bought the source code and hired the creator of CUPS a decade ago. I'm sure he's aware of what the website says.

andrewf 9y ago

I read "developed by Apple" as present tense. Dictionaries claim that "developed" is past tense, but there's plenty of Google results for "is developed by". If it wasn't for the passive voice, "develops"/"developed" would clear up the ambiguity :)