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This is how answered to that same comment a few months ago: And if I promote myself as a Star Trek fan to bring attention to my engineering work, nerd-shaming

This is how answered to that same comment a few months ago: And if I promote myself as a Star Trek fan to bring attention to my engineering work, nerd-shaming is also in scope. Or a body-builder programmer shamed for being a "bro" by us nerds. Why do we need to shame each other about our quirks? (as long as those quirks do no harm, but as far as I know, Sexy Cyborg does not flaunt herself around kindergartens)

TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
> Why do we need to shame each other about our quirks? Everyone judges everyone else. If absolutely everyone just keeps to themselves and has their own standards of right and wrong, no sense of community ever has a chance of forming. I'm not saying OP is right or wrong, but I also don't think that social standards and expectations are 100% evil or harmful to society.
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  > "If absolutely everyone just keeps to themselves and has their own standards of right and wrong, no sense of community ever has a chance of forming." Judgement of the personal lives of others does not have to be the cornerstone of a community, especially one that has nothing to do with the personality of others. How someone chooses to dress out of their own free will is completely unrelated to their interest in tech. What I find to be disappointing is when people who can't/won't see past looks. Yes, our first reaction is likely to be visual, but if a hacker can't recognise a fellow hacker just because they look different to what they expect, that's a real shame. When I look at a video like this, I don't just see an attractive woman, I see a hacker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBcZeElCxxk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBcZeElCxxk
ambicapter 9y ago
These aren't really her "quirks" are they? Its pretty much central her identity. Its in the name.
JimboOmega 9y ago
Whenever you leverage things outside of a field to become well known/get recognition within a field, people are going to push back on it and call it inauthentic. Those other traits could be sex appeal, it could be celebrity in another area, it could be wealth, whatever. Of course having those other traits doesn't mean that you are necessarily incapable or inauthentic in that space. It doesn't "prove" anything. I doubt that Sexy Cyborg would be as well known without the sexual aspect, but fame doesn't correspond perfectly to competence either. To me it's leveraging those traits to gain recognition that stirs people up - which, with a name like "SexyCyborg", she's pretty clearly doing. I don't mind it myself, don't think it says anything about her competence on its own.

TheAdamAndChe 9y ago

> Why do we need to shame each other about our quirks? Everyone judges everyone else. If absolutely everyone just keeps to themselves and has their own standards of right and wrong, no sense of community ever has a chance of forming. I'm not saying OP is right or wrong, but I also don't think that social standards and expectations are 100% evil or harmful to society.

ZenoArrow 9y ago
> "If absolutely everyone just keeps to themselves and has their own standards of right and wrong, no sense of community ever has a chance of forming." Judgement of the personal lives of others does not have to be the cornerstone of a community, especially one that has nothing to do with the personality of others. How someone chooses to dress out of their own free will is completely unrelated to their interest in tech. What I find to be disappointing is when people who can't/won't see past looks. Yes, our first reaction is likely to be visual, but if a hacker can't recognise a fellow hacker just because they look different to what they expect, that's a real shame. When I look at a video like this, I don't just see an attractive woman, I see a hacker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBcZeElCxxk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBcZeElCxxk

ambicapter 9y ago

These aren't really her "quirks" are they? Its pretty much central her identity. Its in the name.

JimboOmega 9y ago

Whenever you leverage things outside of a field to become well known/get recognition within a field, people are going to push back on it and call it inauthentic. Those other traits could be sex appeal, it could be celebrity in another area, it could be wealth, whatever. Of course having those other traits doesn't mean that you are necessarily incapable or inauthentic in that space. It doesn't "prove" anything. I doubt that Sexy Cyborg would be as well known without the sexual aspect, but fame doesn't correspond perfectly to competence either. To me it's leveraging those traits to gain recognition that stirs people up - which, with a name like "SexyCyborg", she's pretty clearly doing. I don't mind it myself, don't think it says anything about her competence on its own.