> as far as the US is concerned, you might as well never have been a citizen at all I guess that's better than the alternative: being treated worse because you

> as far as the US is concerned, you might as well never have been a citizen at all I guess that's better than the alternative: being treated worse because you're deemed a "traitor" or "deserter" for giving up US citizenship. > This means that when you want/need to visit the country, you can be denied entrance This I can understand. You aren't a citizen anymore and thus have the same rights as any other foreigner visiting the US. If there is no further discrimination against you for being a ex-citizen, I personally don't see why ex-citizens shouldn't have the same requirements as non-citizens for entry. > the claim they'll use is that you don't have enough "ties" to your new country for them to be certain that you won't try to stay illegally. Yeah, that's extra shitty.