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I still use the Firefox ESR for the dev tools, the new dev tools are missing things like the network response preview, the debugger is not working right for me,

I still use the Firefox ESR for the dev tools, the new dev tools are missing things like the network response preview, the debugger is not working right for me, and the Chrome look does not appeal to me, I prefer the old dev tools. Other then this as a user I like the fact the Firefox is moving again and in a right direction most of the time. I hope they respect the user privacy more and the new privacy invading feature should be opt in.

fiatjaf 9y ago
The old devtools were amazingly slow and heavy. The new ones are much much better. Almost as fast as Chrome's.
- simion314 9y ago
  For me the tools worked fine, I prefer the Firefox ESR layout, I prefer FF ESR Network tab, Chrome network tab is too much for my usual tasks, 99% of the time I want to see the response code and the exact response and I do not care about profiling, so Ff way worked fine for me. The JS debugger layout makes more sense for me how it was in Ff, call stack on left side, variables on right side, Chrome call stack view is weird. So I use ESR for dev, hopefully the bugs that affect me will be fixed and the UI changes I could get used to. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353319 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353319
masklinn 9y ago
> the new dev tools are missing things like the network response preview Do you mean the content of the response or something else? Because I'm on FDE and they're definitely there ("Response" tab when selecting a network entry)
- simion314 9y ago
  I can see the response as plain text but before there was a PReview tab too that showed the response as rendered html, there is a ticket opened for this issue https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353319 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353319
cJ0th 9y ago
> the new privacy invading feature should be opt in. I agree. The new features, however, are not. They even ("temporarily") collect IP addresses by default when FF calls home.( https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/ ) And, naturally, they also intend comply with the law. In other words, they hand over data to governments. ( https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/ ) What Mozilla are doing here is despicable.
- simion314 9y ago
  The users that used Firefox despite the lower performance had good reaspons to use Ff like privacy and the extensions, now this new performance updates are cool but the updates that affect privacy and extensions hit the loyal users, I think this is a huge, mistake and I understand that extensions need to be updated but privacy should be the first reason someone would use Ff over chrome, if Mozilla needs statistics then they can prompt the user and ask permissions.
swozey 9y ago
Is there a way to opt out of the data collection? I haven't used Firefox in a long time but always liked it for its privacy progress. I'm enjoying Aurora so far, but that's not cool. edit: Found it, very bottom of Privacy

fiatjaf 9y ago

The old devtools were amazingly slow and heavy. The new ones are much much better. Almost as fast as Chrome's.

simion314 9y ago
For me the tools worked fine, I prefer the Firefox ESR layout, I prefer FF ESR Network tab, Chrome network tab is too much for my usual tasks, 99% of the time I want to see the response code and the exact response and I do not care about profiling, so Ff way worked fine for me. The JS debugger layout makes more sense for me how it was in Ff, call stack on left side, variables on right side, Chrome call stack view is weird. So I use ESR for dev, hopefully the bugs that affect me will be fixed and the UI changes I could get used to. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353319 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353319

masklinn 9y ago

> the new dev tools are missing things like the network response preview Do you mean the content of the response or something else? Because I'm on FDE and they're definitely there ("Response" tab when selecting a network entry)

simion314 9y ago
I can see the response as plain text but before there was a PReview tab too that showed the response as rendered html, there is a ticket opened for this issue https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353319 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1353319

cJ0th 9y ago

> the new privacy invading feature should be opt in. I agree. The new features, however, are not. They even ("temporarily") collect IP addresses by default when FF calls home.( https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/ ) And, naturally, they also intend comply with the law. In other words, they hand over data to governments. ( https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/ ) What Mozilla are doing here is despicable.

simion314 9y ago
The users that used Firefox despite the lower performance had good reaspons to use Ff like privacy and the extensions, now this new performance updates are cool but the updates that affect privacy and extensions hit the loyal users, I think this is a huge, mistake and I understand that extensions need to be updated but privacy should be the first reason someone would use Ff over chrome, if Mozilla needs statistics then they can prompt the user and ask permissions.

swozey 9y ago

Is there a way to opt out of the data collection? I haven't used Firefox in a long time but always liked it for its privacy progress. I'm enjoying Aurora so far, but that's not cool. edit: Found it, very bottom of Privacy