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You may not have noticed that their other product is the exact opposite. Maybe that gives them some legal protection? http://youjustneedspace.com/ http://youjus

You may not have noticed that their other product is the exact opposite. Maybe that gives them some legal protection? http://youjustneedspace.com/ http://youjustneedspace.com/

ehnto 9y ago
Potentially, but this is all new ground anyway. Is there even a law that would cover it in this context? It also doesn't strike me as benevolent to offer a service to fix the problems your other service caused.
zaptheimpaler 9y ago
Thats despicable. They sell both the disease and a cure for double the money.
- RAB1138 9y ago
  Bruh. Did you even look at the price on Space?
  - onion2k 9y ago
    To quote Andrew Lewis, "If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product." You'll know when a user of a Dopamine-backed app installs Space, and that's useful to you. Measuring people trying to give up an addiction feeds back in to understanding the causes of addiction, and in your case presumably gives you quantifiable information you can use to make Dopamine more effective. Saying you made it and give it away out of the goodness of your heart seems a little underhanded.
  - zaptheimpaler 9y ago
    Ok its free, you got me! Your company is still about making shit addictive. Its customers will inevitably be those with the money & inclination to make their app addictive - social media & mobile games. Its morally pretty close to adding sugar to junk food or selling cigarettes. You were going to clear up "mob misconceptions" about ethics but it turns out you had nothing to say, just an "invitation for discourse".. while most of the tech world has been in on this particular discourse for years, with constant media coverage, and we know its a problem. But I'm pretty sure you know all of that. Don't expect public approval for making glorified/AI-powered slot machines, they're still just slot machines.
  - Grangar 9y ago
    Bruh. Just adding another app to 'counteract' the effects isn't going to suddenly clear you of ethical issues. It's the equivalent of mcdonalds selling salads...
    - Grangar 9y ago
      Oh and to add to this, the app seems to literally just be a waiting screen. Everything about it screams cop-out.
- lawnchair_larry 9y ago
  Nah, it's not a cure. They know that. It's like telling a slot machine addict that they are provided with the option of not playing.
anigbrowl 9y ago
'Nice free will you have there. Be a shame if someone manipulated it.'

You may not have noticed that their other product is the exact opposite. Maybe that gives them some legal protection? http://youjustneedspace.com/ http://youjustneedspace.com/

ehnto 9y ago

Potentially, but this is all new ground anyway. Is there even a law that would cover it in this context? It also doesn't strike me as benevolent to offer a service to fix the problems your other service caused.

zaptheimpaler 9y ago

Thats despicable. They sell both the disease and a cure for double the money.

RAB1138 9y ago
Bruh. Did you even look at the price on Space?
- onion2k 9y ago
  To quote Andrew Lewis, "If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product." You'll know when a user of a Dopamine-backed app installs Space, and that's useful to you. Measuring people trying to give up an addiction feeds back in to understanding the causes of addiction, and in your case presumably gives you quantifiable information you can use to make Dopamine more effective. Saying you made it and give it away out of the goodness of your heart seems a little underhanded.
- zaptheimpaler 9y ago
  Ok its free, you got me! Your company is still about making shit addictive. Its customers will inevitably be those with the money & inclination to make their app addictive - social media & mobile games. Its morally pretty close to adding sugar to junk food or selling cigarettes. You were going to clear up "mob misconceptions" about ethics but it turns out you had nothing to say, just an "invitation for discourse".. while most of the tech world has been in on this particular discourse for years, with constant media coverage, and we know its a problem. But I'm pretty sure you know all of that. Don't expect public approval for making glorified/AI-powered slot machines, they're still just slot machines.
- Grangar 9y ago
  Bruh. Just adding another app to 'counteract' the effects isn't going to suddenly clear you of ethical issues. It's the equivalent of mcdonalds selling salads...
  - Grangar 9y ago
    Oh and to add to this, the app seems to literally just be a waiting screen. Everything about it screams cop-out.
lawnchair_larry 9y ago
Nah, it's not a cure. They know that. It's like telling a slot machine addict that they are provided with the option of not playing.

anigbrowl 9y ago

'Nice free will you have there. Be a shame if someone manipulated it.'